Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren acknowledged for the first time late Wednesday night that she told Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania that she was Native American, but she continued to insist that race played no role in her recruitment.
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If she is this deceitful before being elected, think of how she will be after being elected. Time for Massachusetts to stop being the laughing stock of the country.
Good Globe article. Finally, the Globe forced a confession from Warren. This is one deceitful and dishonest individual.
I doubt this is a knockout issue for her, but let's tell it straight and move on. She obviously listed herself as a Native American to gain some favor, even if only in her own eyes as a typical "wannabe minority" liberal. I mean really, just how "proud" can you be about being 1/32 anything. It also makes something of a mockery out of an application process that is designed to identify legitimate minorities and, perhaps, give special consideration to these folks who have historically been overlooked because of their race. Warren should be ashamed of presenting herself as such and should admit it was out of place.
This is no laughing matter. She is a decent old lady This is no laughing matter. She is a really decent old lady. No doubt, she suffers other delusions as well. Perfectly suited to serve in the U.S. Senate. Perhaps, if she moved back to Oklahoma, she could regain her credibility as a native American. I predict that she is, in fact, a "laughing matter" within the Harvard faculty now. Snickers and aside glances as she enters the chambers. So Sad!
I thought all you right wingers said she was NOT an Indian? And you wimpy Globbies said she was NOT a Native American? What the heck have you been writing about? Again, if you are trying to overcompensate for some perceived bias on the part of some of the posters here than you are crazy!
She said she just wanted to meet other Native Americans, yet she won't talk to the (real) Cherokees who are asking her to explain herself. http://cherokeesdemandtruth-elizabethwarren.blogspot.com/
This is not a new revelation. It is also so cloaked in very fuzzy details about a 2 to 3 year period some 20 years ago with little clear explanation of the context of the times. Of course we know Prof Warren at some point told administrators at both schools she had Native American heritage but we also know she did not identify herself as having grown up immersed in the life of being Native American. We also know there was no advantage afforded to her because this part of her family lore was discussed with Deans at Harvard or the University of Pennsylvania. So what don't we know and frankly what difference does it make? Harvard and the University of Pennsylvania in the 90s after many years of discrimination against several minority groups were under pressure, not of their own initiative, to rectify their antisocial practices. It looks like they were more interested in the letter of the law rather than its spirit. This is the story that should be told. Not only will it clarify how Prof Warren's name appeared in a legal directory but just what was the thinking and actions of university managers during those years. What exactly were the requirements to list someone as belonging to some group in the 1990's and how and who documented it? At least let the public have some view of this period in our history when major institutions had to come to grips with their less than sterling practices. It is apparent Prof Warren was a bit player in all this and she performed as a first class academic and not as someone who was a token to demonstrate reversal in a policy to gain or retain government funds. However the media continues to let blood spill in the waters to produce a feeding frenzy. They have not spoken to relatives of Prof Warren, in particular those closest to her. They have not filled in the University timeline with details that would finally put closure on this major distraction. Until that happens the public is free to believe what they want, but it is based on little substantial reporting. Whatever side is taken each of us must weigh what criteria we use to assess the importance in choosing someone to represent us. The real problem here is the caliber of newspaper reporting and its failure to present of a picture of what really happened. On this issue at least they have engendered political gossip without the background work it takes to come to valid conclusions.
It is about time she finally admitted the obvious.
"Fried added that he learned of Warren's purported heritage only after she was on the faculty, when he had dinner at her home and asked her about a family picture." How? (No pun intended.) How did the family picture bring up the subject of 3% native-american ethnicity? Was Warren standing in front of a teepee in the family picture?
Can' believe this conversation is still going on. One would think there were important issues to discuss. Oh, right this is America keep everything at a 4th grade level so as not to stress out the public. Ethnic background. Who cares?
Hey Scott Brown, will you stop raising this issue! We don't care that she got her jobs by claiming to be a Cherokee. In fact, this is Massachusetts. Warren gets points for gaming the system like that.
You'd have to admit, it's on a different scale from what Mitt engages in every day.
you can smell the racism and misogyny blending in this no-big-deal non-story. Warren is bright. Brown smears her as an affirmative action baby. A true Tea Party Republican, this guy: tear down, tear down, tear down. The pathetic and threadbare Indian jokes. The sanctimonious and shrill howling over racial reporting. Brown can not run a positive campaign; he fits right in with a do-nothing, know-nothing Republican DC gang. funny thing is, if he gets re-elected, we deserve all the smarmy, crappy policies we will get from the federal government.
I don't know about everyone else, but my family has legends and folklore that are probably true to a degree, but not provable in a court of law. When are we going to get down to discussing the real differences between the two candidates? This is fluff.
Lizzie "lies a lot" Warren. I LOOOOOOVE liberal's like her and Kerry. Take advantage of the system because there are 2 sets of rules and we don't have to play by the little people's rules. What a phoney !
This entire story reflects incredibly badly on Brown and his campaign. I think it will - and should - cost Brown the election. Elizabeth Warren was hired (1) because she was totally outstanding and (2) because universities were under pressure at that time to hire women to make up for the fact that women had been denied jobs on university faculties before the 1964 civil rights act and affirmative action laws that followed it. Every woman hired on a university faculty in that era was essentially the result of pressure brought by the government on universities to end centuries of discrimination. That Warren felt she had an indian heritage, and reported it would have merely been an effort to be helpful to the university - not herself. As she and others point out, these universities RECRUITED her with no knowledge of this heritage (and by the way, just as they had always recruited exceptional white males without those men ever having to apply, but in Warren's case, because of the need to hire exceptional women or break the law.) Anyone who knows the history of America should know this and should be grateful that our country was able to overcome the devastating discrimination that kept women, jews, and blacks out of university faculties for most of our history. One can not help think that what underlies this attack on WArren is the same old same old notion that whenever a woman advances she must have done so unfairly - she couldn't POSSIBLY have gotten there on her merits. Well, Warren did get there on her merits. Thank heavens our major and our governor have the guts and intelligence to say so.
This is the person who was hand picked, vetted and sent forth with tons 'o bucks by the DNC to take back the ' Kennedy Seat '. Once elected, members of the Senate are by far, the most deeply entrenched of all national politicians; if she is elected, we are likely married for a very long time. The question before us is, does she represent the Massachusetts sentiments of Suffolk and Middlesex counties - probably yes. But Brown carried the " fly - over " counties - Worester, Franklin, Hamden, Hampshire, Pymouth and beyond. There are residents of this state, hundreds of thousands, who do not necessarily buy in to Warren and her vision. She claims to be concerned with the plight of the 99% while through skill and guile, has played every card to gain entry to the 1%. God bless her tenacity - but lets not forget the hypocrisy. If she is elected, get ready for the distant voice from the ivory tower; " thanks peasants and see ' ya latter, I have God's work to do ". Scott Brown, great guy, probably; adequate balance to Kerry - certainly, the person to hold the ' Kennedy seat ', I certainly hope so.
This is a non-issue carried on by the same type of people similar to Obama's "birthers". Those who basically don't like the candidate will continue until the election, wasting everyone's time.
This woman is a 'true, Blue phony.' Last night she was dancing around and clapping her hands while Patrick was speaking on 'her behalf.'What a display of idiocy. It made me want to barf. If nothing else, the clown antics by the Governor and Ms.Warren ought to make Democratic members question their party allegiance and their blind voting faith: no questions asked, just drink the Kool-Aid on their way into the voting booths!
There is a huge bridge outside Boston, called the Leonard Zakim bridge. It is a beautiful bridge, especially with blue lights at night. How much do you want to pay for it?
If nothing else, this hiccup in the campaign points out the absurdity of the whole load of bs that is the diversity issue.
Regardless of her heritage, she comes across as lame, politically inept and unable to deal with the rough-and-tumble of electoral politics. She apparently needs Deval Patrick to step in and speak for her. What is a Democrat to do? Hope Marisa DeFranco gets her 15% and it becomes a real race between the anointed one and a real candidate with street cred.
Yes. You are. Thanks for the admission. But why can't folks admit their opinion of her is based on political bias and nothing more? Such utter nonsense. Ranks up there with Scotty's Cosmo centerfold.
It must have been quite painful for Globe staffers and editorial writers to realize that this story could no longer be buried or ignored. This leaves me wondering what other relevant facts may be out there that have been deemed not worthy of reporting by these journalists.
This story has less relevance than the Scott Brown center fold story. Both were non-material errors in judgement. But some how the sitting junior senator got a pass on his moment of indiscretion but his surrogates are going to hammer on this lame charge against Warren for as long as they can get away with it.