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Brian McGrory

Elizabeth Warren a woman of few words

For the sake of Massachusetts, let’s hope that Elizabeth Warren gets better than this.

She was always a mildly underwhelming candidate, clutching her talking points like they were a satchel of gold — millionaires and ­billionaires, a level playing field, big oil. As deft as she was at slogans, she was never so good at answering questions, which was odd for a person of such experience and substance.

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The ants in their pants pundits have risen again.  Prof Warren is Senator Elect not the present Senator.  The issues to be voted on before January belong to Scott Brown.  It is his opportunity to show how "bipartisan" he can be by preventing filibuster gridlock on what needs to be done.  He should be asked if he will vote the will of the people of this Commonwealth and the nation.  It is not Democrats that have been obstructing assurance of desired American values but the alternative reality Republicans.  When Elizabeth Warren goes to Washington and raises her hand to be sworn in, gets a lay of the legislative landscape, that is the time to weigh in on legislative priorities.  The questions she was asked pertain to the lame duck session and she has no influence over that.  In the arena of the hurried news cycle that makes more mistakes than it should or overreacts to out of context statements it brings us poor government.  During the campaign Prof Warren stated the social values that need addressing and will turn it into legislative action at the right time.  In the meantime the pressure should be on Sen Scott Brown to understand what his defeat means.  He should use the time left to him to exercise his legislative duties accordingly.  It will give him a chance to truly show he is for us.  I believe Sen Elect Warren was extending a courtesty to those who must finish their term responsibly doing the people's work on their own merit.  

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Well said, oetkb...the media need to remember that our representatives needn't blab away just because a reporter needs a nifty quote for the next morning's newspaper.

The ants in their pants pundits have risen again.  Prof Warren is Senator Elect not the present Senator.  The issues to be voted on before January belong to Scott Brown.  It is his opportunity to show how "bipartisan" he can be by preventing filibuster gridlock on what needs to be done.  He should be asked if he will vote the will of the people of this Commonwealth and the nation.  It is not Democrats that have been obstructing assurance of desired American values but the alternative reality Republicans.  When Elizabeth Warren goes to Washington and raises her hand to be sworn in, gets a lay of the legislative landscape, that is the time to weigh in on legislative priorities.  The questions she was asked pertain to the lame duck session and she has no influence over that.  In the arena of the hurried news cycle that makes more mistakes than it should or overreacts to out of context statements it brings us poor government.  During the campaign Prof Warren stated the social values that need addressing and will turn it into legislative action at the right time.  In the meantime the pressure should be on Sen Scott Brown to understand what his defeat means.  He should use the time left to him to exercise his legislative duties accordingly.  It will give him a chance to truly show he is for us.  I believe Sen Elect Warren was extending a courtesty to those who must finish their term responsibly doing the people's work on their own merit.  

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Well said indeed, but why wasn't Warren the one to say it?

Don't get me wrong, I'm the steriotype that voted for her or rather, against Brown once he showed his true colors, but Brian is on the right point even if OETKB is too.

She had to ask an aide "Can I say that?" she has zero experience and it's shows, we elected a Senator that will go to Washington and basically just do as she's told. The women decided it was more important to get a represenative that will protect their reproductive rights.

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No, the state decided.  Scott was found to have not represented his constituents apart from the ones with money andthe ones who voted for him.

No, the state decided.  Scott was found to have not represented his constituents apart from the ones with money andthe ones who voted for him.

"she was far better than the other option" ??? Hardly, and only in the bleeding blue state of Massachusetts. Openness and honesty? Hah.

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Yes...it would have been better if she simply stated mouth-breathing Democratic bromides that would simply anger anyone who voted for Brown! She's got to work with McConnel and Inhofe and other Tea Party types. Do you really want them to hate her more than they already do?

Brian - why do all of you press types care about style. She represents all of those who did not vote for her as well as her base. Did you really want to see a mouth-btreathing liberal who would simply further anger Brown voters? Unlike the other polished politicians you have seen, she was not raised as a candidate from birth.

Maybe she needs a TelePrompTer.

"I only said I wanted to help the lower and middle classes, I never said I wanted to mingle with this riff raff.  Quick, get me back to Brattle Street!!"  EW. Senator Elect

The press is upset because she acted like Bill Belichick: she gave you nothing but simple answers.

 

Usually politicians are long winded.  She is right to the point.  It is refreshing.

Have no fear folks. Sen. Elect Warren is just keeping the Kennedy seat warm for the next Kennedy. She will do what she is told to do.

Please don't speak for me, Mr. McGrory.  I value succinctness.  You should try it.

So during an "easy" press conference she doesn't elaborate enough on whether or not she'll have a diverse staff and she's being disrespectful? 36 hours after winning and months before she is sworn in and she is letting us down? How about we reserve some judgement for when she actually, you know, has the job. 

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She's not a professional politician.   She hasn't been doing this ALL her life.  Let her warm up to the job.   She must be overwhelmed by the magnitude of the victory that she has acheived.   I for one will reserve judgement on her and look at her actions during her time in office.  I'm sure she will grow into the position more than Mr Brown ever did.   And in six years I'm sure you'll have a raft of accomplishments to point to as she gets reelected.

You know if we had elected Martha Coakley 2 and half years ago,  she would have gotten it right away.   She would have given you the whiz bang press conference. She was another champion of the people.  But then Massachusetts as well as the rest of the country was smitten by the shiny new prattle of tea party and confused style over substance

Perhaps you failed to notice that Elizabeth Warren is not the Senator from Massachusetts, Scott Brown is.  He will be casting some very important votes in the next couple of months and my hope is that he and she will have some "discreet" conversations and explore how each of them can benefit the citizens of the Commonwealth in the most effective way.  When Mr. Brown became Senator Brown the seat was vacant.  He could say what he wanted to say without a care in the world. I respect her for respecting the fact that she is the senator-elect and Scott Brown has to be respected as the sitting Senator.  It will not be easy for either one of them but they need to talk and understand each other over the next crucial months and, if it is possible to do so at all, to do so quietly.

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Great time Boston Globe to notice maybe she isn't what she is supposed to be.......

Brian weren't you a big supporter of Warren - why change after election day ?

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hah, took the Globe and Martha Coakley a few years to catch onto Tim Cahill spending tax payer money to advertise his campaign. Had to leave him in to be the spoiler so Deval could win first.

hah, took the Globe and Martha Coakley a few years to catch onto Tim Cahill spending tax payer money to advertise his campaign. Had to leave him in to be the spoiler so Deval could win first.

You got what you wrote for-enjoy for the next 6 years

Mr. McGrory: Welcome back to the practice of journalism.

I am afraid that you have it right.  What we are seeing now is more of the reason she was kicked out of the agecy she created - -not only the  Republicans but also all of the Deomcrats were sick to death of her.

Congratulations to Prof. Warren for winning election.  That is an awe-inspiring accomplishment, period. But you can just look at her acceptance speech, and the way she barked "NO"! at her cheering supporters to quiet them, to see the real human being behind the "hammered by billionaires" root.  She makes John Kerry look like Ronald Reagan.

Now she will never, ever be voted out.  This is kind of a sad day for us, the chumps who voted her in.  Too bad there was not a columnist or two around to tell us more about her when we had time to decide.  Not that I am bitter.  Say hi to your rooster for me.  

 

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I meant the hammered by billionaires" talking points. I don't know what "root" means above or why I typed it.

She is holding the seat for Joe Kennedy - she will return in 6 years and go back to Harvard - we will then have Senator Joe :(

This is what happens when you elect a rookie to a high level office.  We finally had a great, bi-partisan senator and you and other liberal voters kicked him to the curb.  We are stuck with her now and the state is once again a laughingstock.  Hold on to your wallets.

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HE WAS NOT NOT NOT NOT bipartisan.  You guys live in fantasy land.  He was bought sold and owned by big oil and any other big corporation behemouth that GOUGES us and PROBABLY you unless you are part of the 1%.  He will NEVER if Democrats stay vigilent see high office again.  Let him run for dog catcher of Wrentham!

How could he be bi-partsan at all when he signed the Norquist pledge early on?

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I won't accept any criticism of Senator Warren.  for god's sake the woman just took office.  Where the economy is concerned she probably needs to speak softly but WILL carry a big stick.  I have NO DOUBT NONE whatsoever she will work against the big money interests, big banks and big corporations trying to hoard all the cash and leave nothing for the 99%.

 

Leave the woman alone I say, and let her do her job.  She just got to there... SHEESH!

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Leave her alone? Are you serious? She has spent tens of millions of dollars and invaded my home with calls and advertising begging and pleading for this focus. She won and therefore now has our full attention. BTW, she's not even "there" yet. My Senator is closing out his term with the aplomb that I would expect of anyone on the public stage.

OMG, Ms Rosen, you forgot to take your meds, once again, this morning. Or perhaps your understanding of our election laws are different than what they actually are. Warren is officially a "Senator-elect" and she has not taken office yet. She, like every other elected politician will lose her backbone (what little she has left from her battle with osteoparosis) when she confronts the financial corporations. Just ask Brooksley Born, the former CFTC Chairwoman, what caused the the financial crisis that we are in. It was a Republican controlled House & Senate and a Democratic President, Bill Clinton, that enacted the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 that permitted outright gambling in the financial markets. The Act received overwhelming bi-partisan support and coupled with Barney Frank's oversight of Fannie & Freddie, we are in financial ruin. Your hatred for the 1% is clearly misdirected.

McGrory asserts that Warren was "better than the alternative" (i.e. Scott Brown).  Really?  Well, I guess we're going to find out if this over-caffeinated, hectoring schoolmarm really is a better alternative than the high-integrity, hard-working, respected, admired, accomplished, truly bi-partisan Senator whom she'll be replacing soon.  As it stands now, a woman who has spent her life in faculty lounges and wagging her finger at other people seems mighty uncomfortable with answering even the softest questions.  It's almost as if a woman who campaigned as a mouthpiece for the Democrat machine, parroting tired, narrow, cynical talking points built around contraception, class warfare, and the 'big banks', is suddenly discovering that she now needs to speak for people other than single women and the poor souls in Brockton and Lynn who are waiting for the next Kennedy to save them.  And, on the basis of the fact that she deferred to the governor on a question about defense spending, she may need to be educated on what Senators actually do, too.  She's likely to be a dismal Senator, mainly because she'll probably annoy the living daylights out of her colleagues within one month.  Of course, that won't matter to the fools who elected her.  The rest of us will have to console ourselves with the fact that she'll be fun to watch.

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When most of your neighbors look like fools it may be time for self-assessment.

Noonzer likes to critize Warren but when he comes to recommending Brown he should think about it a little more. She brings to the Commonwealth a great deal of experience in Washington and in the U.S. She has appeared before the Supreme Court and appellate courts several times (not representing just corporations but seeking to protect the interests of individuals as well--a fact that Brown incorrectly described in his campaign. Compare that to Brown who has worked at closing some real estate transactions from his home for some banks he mostly refused to identify and otherwise got his income from working for the state or the federal government. Brown: traded in his interest in MA for a higher office with the Maryland national guard; has already gotten himself a job in the Pentagon working for the general in charge of the national guard; has forgotten that people don't regard seven days in Afganistan as a real tour of duty; was "truly bi-partisan" only when he knew it wouldn't cause him any problem with his GOP senate members. If noonzer thinks that big banks aren't a problem and that voters don't recognize that they were much of the cause of the Great Recession he needs to think again.

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Gosh Brian, it must really stink when a politician answers each question and then stands ready for the next one.  Especially when those questions are either unremarkable ("how do you feel about the number of woman who were elected"), silly ("will your staff be diverse") or premature ("how do you plan to vote on the fiscal cliff").   She elaborated on her answers to the first; really, how does one answer the second without alerting the reporter to the fact he/she has asked a really stupid question ("of course I intend to have a diverse staff you twit"?  Or how about "no, I plan to have all older, smart, well educated women just like me"?) or the final one, which conveniently forgets that we have a senator at the moment who is in office over the next crucial two months, who will be the one actually voting and with whom she must work.  Good Lord, you guys in the media just really need to get over yourselves sometimes.  

For the sake of Massachusetts let us hope that the political commentators cut Senator-elect Warren a little slack. She isn't a Senator yet, must wait for two months to exert any influence on what the Senate does during that time, has to deal with the issue of what committees to be named to and a whole lot of other issues. Why try to give her a hard time after her having spent the better part of year achieving the result that is so important to this state.

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IMHO, the questions that she was handed yesterday were utter "softballs". I think that's why the press was so horrified and spent so much time on them last night and again today. The hardest question she had to deal with was the one regarding defense spending and I'm fairly certain my 14 year old son would have hit that one into center field.

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You got what you deserve. She doesn't need you anymore or the people who voted for her. She is an eleitist. This is a perfect example of why she wasn't confirmed for the consumer post in D.C. Her behavior is perfectly consistent with the know it alls from Harvuud. Let's just see how bipartisan she will be in the Senate.

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I was going to post my own comment but this one is even better that what I had teed up. I hope the professor/Senator elect understands the metaphor "be careful what you wish for". She will get less starting leeway than Bobby Valentine the day she takes the peoples seat. Pair her sometimes shrill, sometimes vapid responses with her inexperience and we are in for some rough days. Yes, I was a sore loser for a solid 24 hours. Now I'm even more motivated to ensure that we are well represented. Yesterday's press conference was an utterly embarrassing event that only serves to reaffirm that she was the wrong choice. RD

As anyone who was paying any attention at all knows, she was only available to run for the Senate because the Wall Street fat cats are terrified of her.

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This is what happens when you don't give the press an easy column for the next day.

I didn't vote for her, and I certainly understand she is probably exhausted and even a bit nervous about the new responsibilities. However, I would have thought somebody who just spent 14 months of public speaking nearly every single day and facing cameras and microphones would be a lot more at ease after the election.

Of all her comments the one that puzzled me the most was "I was a lot more discreet as a candidate than I was in real life."

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I don't know Elizabeth Warren that well, but I would imagine that, in real life, she was intelligent enough to stay on the issues with Brown when every inclination was to call him out on misinformation, lies, half-truths and utter fabrications, not to mention fantasy.  That's just my opinion.  Please don't dig up the heritage and hair things again:  leave that to Donald Trump.

A politician who answers questions clearly, directly, and without unnecessary blather. Refreshing!

Brian,

You sounded like a sports writer from the old Record American newspaper ("The Daily Record") critisizing Ted Williams for the sake of attracting attention to your column.  No wonder Williams gave the f-nger to his critics while out in left field.

Hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah! What did you voters expect? You elected an academic who thinks she knows all the answers, and doesn't expect to be questioned. Don't worry, she'll be ready to answer lots of questions, once Harry Reid tells her what to say. Congrats, Massachusetts voters --- doing this and re-elected Tierney as well. You guys must be *so* proud!

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And you Republicans once had a governor (Meldron Thompson) who wanted to arm the New Hampshire National Guard with nuclear weapons.  The Republican Party has come a long way since then.  Some of you are actually talking openly about rape and that it's God's will to have the child.

Senator Warren (I love the sound of that), I believe that fighting for consumers and "the little guy" is built into your DNA. This will make you a force in the Senate, as a leader and a legislator. Such committment and passion will also undoubtedly lead to you saying things sometimes in a manner that might be not exactly how you intended, and might offer the opposition an opportunity to jump on you and twist your words. Guess what?? We don't give a rat's a__ what they say!! Let it fly, have some fun being yourself and saying the things that need to be said, and come to you naturally, and let your supporters deal with the stuff (as Joe Biden calls it). Congratulations and Good Luck!!!

"Still water runs deep" and Elizabeth Warren, our US Senator-elect, is not a loose cannon.  Get over the "Rah-rah years" of Scott Brown and the stroking of the media with printable crap.....This is what the voters overwhelmingly (8 pts) elected, Substance Over Style.  I look forward to hearing Elizabeth Warren tell me things that are meaningful, accurate, substantive and valid.  That's what a US Senator does.

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So apparently a Senator-elect gets a pass on "meaningful, accurate, substantive, and valid" answers?  I hope the press that supported her is on her like a pitbull on a porkchop.  I doubt they will be though.  When was the last ink worthy, above the fold story they ran on John Kerry?

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How silly of her to forget that reporters who don't get what they want tend to react like a spoiled six year old who just found out he won't begetting any ice cream.

Brian you answered your question early in the article.  She is a hand puppet...."billionares and millionares, big oil, my father was a janitor...".  She has no ideas and even less style and charisma.  Lets be honest we all know that if Scott Brown had the exact same beliefs and voting record but had a "D" after his name he would have rolled Warren 70-30.  That is the fraud of the Massachusetts democrat electorate.  Good luck with this lightweight senator!

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You're calling Warren the lightweight???

Maybe Warren is coming to terms with the fact that she will spend the next six years in the senate listening to hired  windbags giving meaningless speeches!  That is punishment enough for anyone!

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$174,000 per year salary for working what amounts to 36 weeks. No Obama Care. Lifetime pension at the rate of pay they have when they leave (remember Paul Kirk? Yup...pension for life). Don't have to pay social security taxes. What a gig!! Sign me up.

What a stupid, petty column.  So Elizabeth Warren didn't run her mouth and ramble on with a bunch of meaningless platitudes and now some reporters seem to have had their feelings hurt.  Frankly, I will find it refreshing to have a politician who speaks when she actually has something to say and doesn't waste my time with a bunch of baloney whose only pupose is to feed hacks like McGrory.  If I wanted a glib backslapper I would have voted for Brown. 

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She's getting hammered, HAMMERED!

HA! Western Suburb Dad! She has six years of being SENATOR Warren! This is one day.

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Warren is a teacher: One who has had a curriculum book in front of her for many years.

Now, she can buy a teleprompter like the president - or - continue with her talking points.

You gotta be freakin' kidding me. Too little too late Globe, now you get critical?

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Spot-on WSD..... Thank you!  

Great post typical globe

Elizabeth Warren is a tough, smart, powerful lawyer who properly treated the Boston press corp as a collection of hostile witnesses. Ms. Warren gave those reporters ample opportunity to question her about issues during the campaign -- and got nothing but garbage about her "heritage". I applaud her dignity, and encourage the Boston press to grow up.

 

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I'm disappointed that I did not take this line of comment first!!!  It was always there, day after day, as the media dwelled on Brown BS, probably thinking Elizabeth Warren is a smart, intelligent, capable woman, but she came from the cover of Time Magazine.  Voters prefer the all-American look, without being threatened by gravitas, that comes from the pages of Cosmopolitan .  Your are correct and that dignity never left her, no matter how much crap was shoveled her way.  Well, it's over.  Maybe now we can get on with it and leave the miniscule junk like heritage and hair to Donald Trump.

The approach works well for Bill Belchick. Poor sad media. No juicy meaningless headline to exploit. She apparently forgot she exists to give you fodder for something to print.

Shocking, truly shocking that Elizabeth Warren seems not to really care for the press.  Guess what? A large segment of the general public shares her general disregard.  Gee, after this election season, I can't figure out why.  We know, we know, you love guys in barn coats and pickup trucks who you would love to have a beer with, and by all means ignore those nasty, complicated issues.  They don't produce sound bites or headlines.

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I'm oddly conflicted (a true rarity).  I actually agree nearly 100 percent with your sentiments but at the same time I believe that she doesn't really have the luxury of being able to avoid the press, does she?  In fact I would argue that not only were those questions so easy to answer, she also has an obligation to perform in pitch perfect harmony before she goes to DC and that includes answering questions no matter how seemingly obvious or in the case of Military spending.... pertinent to her new postion.  If she wasn't feeling well, she should have never migrated to the conference room.  If she wasn't prepared or willing to answer even the most basic questions be it in front of the cameras or behind closed doors at 2AM, she should never have tossed her name into the hat.

She is representing us now. She needs to work at not being so thin skinned and work on our behalf without getting so thrown off her game with every little question.

The really scary thing is that she was elected to represent and advocate for the citizens on Massachusetts in the highly-charged, hyper-partisan atmosphere of Washington. There are billions of dollars of federal money, and hundreds of thousands of Massachusetts jobs at stake, and we are all relying on her now. She had better learn how to successfully deal with "adversarial" relationships - otherwise, Massachusetts will be steam-rollered by those who are doing a better job advocating for THEIR own constituencies.

OK, let's quit with the Warren-bashing and see how she fares in Washington. Isn't that what is important?

What a dumb column. 

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That's the point. She can't handle a soft-ball pitch with a loving bunch like Boston media, then how is she going to do in DC ?

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That's not why she isn't talking now. Probably she has been told from higher ups to keep quiet now. (Just like the State Dept. is keeping quiet about what they knew about Benghazi). She KNOWS that a tax on the "Rich" sounds appealing but it will produce little revenue for the government. So soon you will be hearing (or not hearing from the press) from Harry Reid that we need "Carbon credits", and a VAT (a national sales tax) like European countries where up to 20% of an item's sales price is from a VAT. And there are all of the new taxes to pay for ObamaCare. These new taxes will hit the Middle Class, because that's where the REAL money is. And as other bloggers have noted, what ever Harry Reid and Barack Obama ask for will automatically be Elizabeth Warren's position. She will be a Loyal subject for the regime. And everybody should watch where California is headed, because that's where the rest of the country is headed.

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Miker6   right out of faux news. You get an A+ for parroting the repub line. making the rich pay their fair share. Romney with a fortune of 250 mil pays 14% that is not fair. You haven't figured out the Obama care will reduce health care costs because Faux News hasn't told you yet. Benghazi oh really big cover up oops I forgot thats Fox News conspiracy theory. Your right up to date another A+ 

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Elizabeth Warren will give Massachusetts exactly what the Democratic controled Senate tells her to say and do under the dicates of President Obama. What you want is what Scott Brown could have given you....Fair open and honest representation which this State tossed aside in both State and Federal election. You have bought a "pig in a poke"with a Socialistic belief that every hand deserves a government handout , hard work is for the foolish,and all you finances belong to this same government. Hope you enjoy the ride down the slippery slope.Trust you will throw us all a rope and save us from this Liberal Progressive slide Elizabeth Warren.....if you can.

I really respect McGrory, but this column reeks of his own hurt feelings as a journalist.  Who cares?  What I care about is what Warren actually does as our junior Senator.

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My thoughts exactly!

Did anyone expect anything more from her? She's a horrible, elitist witch. Excellent column McGrory. Glad someone at the Globe is exposing this fraud.

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Wackyjackie. Apt name. Try a little substance, instead of namecalling next time.

Brian after a column like this, why do you work for the Globe that supported her?  Is she evolving like Joey Kennedy?  She is an elitist and in the end she like Kerry feel they don't have to answe questions.

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IamOpus,


What, Opus 0?  That's ridiculous.  If you have ever written to Kerry, he returns the most detailed and thoughtful replies of any public servant in the nation.  I certainly hope, with Brian, that she loosens up and acts more like her regular self as a widely loved and respected teacher, who is known to have no loss for words.

It will be interesting to see if leftists around the nation get their money's worth our of Liz. She is off to a rough start.

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Brown lost.

Perhaps you haven't read the memo yet Brian - our leaders are no longer required to answer substantive questions which are weird, and un-promeerican. From the details you've provided it appears that no one asked any quetions allowing her to respond with some of form of "greedy, white guys..." What gives?

Even McGrory grudgingly admits his aggrieved column is lamenting "style over substance", and Warren's seeming lack of that style yesterday.  I say, "Get used to it."  We members of the electorate always cry to get "real" citizens to fill our legislatures, but then, when we get one like Warren, we wonder where the "real politician" is.  SHE IS NOT SOME OLD-TIME, GLAD-HANDING POLITICIAN, who'll play the media game.  She may be less easy about pumping the flesh than Scott Brown was, but you know what, she has so much more going for her than Brown, and her style and approach works perfectly in the Senate, where a lower-key approach wins the day.  I've seen the footage of her grilling Timothy Geithner, and I'm not worried that she will lose all that passion when she gets to D.C.  She' going to be a refreshing Senator, and I believe she'll accomplish way more in her first couple of years than "do-nothing" glad-hander Scott Brown did.      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Oh, and I get a kick out of the right-wingers out here who constantly complain and whine about the biased "liberal" media, and who now suddenly ally themselves with that very same press that they complained about JUST YESTERDAY!  "Yeah, you go, Globe and McGrory!"  Hah!  You can't have it both ways, commenters.  The press didn't change overnight to your point of view; they just haven't yet figured out our newest Senator.

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I don't think it is just "Right Wingers" who are dissappointed. I find it hard to believe that 48% of Massachusetts is... Right wing! Let's not forget that "right wing" in the commonwealth is probably viewed as way left of center in points south and west of New York City. As a liberal, I'm dissappointed in her first press conference but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she's very tired from the campaign. I also voted for Scott Brown simply because I like balance and I think we had that in our representation in him. However, it's not the end of the world that he lost. Senator Elect Warren can and probably will do some good things, but she better start showing some spark. Being Senator is about showmanship. It's a higher office, it's more prestigious. She needs to learn to wear the role... she's not doing that right now.

MPM:  we're not getting along very well.  We just got rid of ol' Style Over Substance, Heat Over Light and Info Over BS, even though he will be there for a few more weeks.  I think it is prudent to cut Elizabeth Warren a bit more slack-time before expecting her to move the mountains back into alignment!  You said: "Being Senator is about showmanship."  You can't be serious!!  This is the Senator-elect from Massachusetts.  Above all, they get things done!

What we see is the fatal flaw that is Liz Warren; a machine-bred candidate out form under the protection of her DNC handlers. What we also see is Brown' fatal campaign flaw in not expandng upon that difference. He decided to run based upon his local experience and desire to look out for the best interests of MA. She was prodded to run by the DNC and other special interests to look out for theirs. She was a bad campaigner because she truly was the reluctant candidate. She will be a weak senator because she is a front for the special interests who decided to run her in the first place.

Brian skips past her handling of the defense spending question. Never mind how she tried to pass that off to Patrick, it was the shallow answer that is troublesome. That sector accounts for a signficant portion of our state's economy. I am troubled by the possible local impact that looms over the horizon. I would even be more troubled if I were a machinist at GE Engine in Lynn or a machinist at Raytheon in Andover. I hope their union rep explained how Liz was going to help them before he told them to help her.

Brian McGrory, you are such a jerk!  Give the poor woman time to breathe!  What is it about Democrats that they like to eat their young?  You like to b*tch about career politicians but when you get what you want, a citizen legislator, you b*tch because they're not smooth enough for you.  You make me sick.

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That would be fine if she was running for the House. I would expect more polish from a Senator. That is the upper house for a reason. They are supposed to lead and should be made of better stuff. It is obviously early to judge her her but as far as first impressions go she fails in every way.

  MPM: I don't ever recall reading anything you have written about the present US Senator in that seat.  Or the senator-elect.  Guess I'm not paying much attention, or I'm just lucky, because IMHO your post is without merit or verification or vindication.  Where is even a snippet of evidence for your last sorry statement?

Well, folks, you kind of bought yourselves a pig in a poke, now, didn't you?

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I think you just showed who the pig is.

But she's NOT better than the alternative, Brian. She never was. And now that the election's over, you've taken off your rose-colored liberal glasses and are finally seeing what those of us smart enough to vote for Scott Brown knew all along: Liz Warren's got no game. Her academic career was predicated on a lie that pole vaulted her from a commuter college in Texas straight into the Ivy Leagues, which actively touted her as a "woman of color." Her much-vaunted bankruptcy research prompted other researchers to charge her with incompetence and scientific misconduct. She was so abrasive and obnoxious in Washington, Obama didn't even nominate her to head the new bloated bureaucracy she founded. Her campaign was nothing but a series of rehearsed talking points that Warren repeated ad nauseum, no matter what question was put to her. ("What's your favorite color?" Warren: "Middle class folks are getting hammered...") And when pressed for substance instead of talking points, Warren brushed off such questions with a "How dare you question me? Do you know who I am?" attitude worthy of John Kerry. And you and the rest of the media, Brian, let her get away with it. So stop pretending you didn't know the empress had no clothes. The truth of it is, Liz Warren could have participated in the Manson murders and you, the rest of the liberal media and the moonbats of this state STILL would have voted for her simply because she had that big old "D" after her name. Now, we're stuck with her. For that, I suggest you don one of those pointy hats with a "D" on it and go sit in the corner for the next six years.

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"Her much-vaunted bankruptcy research prompted other researchers to charge her with incompetence and scientific misconduct." Please document that, or we will just have to assume that is more nonsense.

qccitizen -- Grow up. She won. Your candidate lost. What arrogance. You were right but a significant majority of voters were wrong. Who told you that? The voice of God in your bathroom mirror.

 

I hate those voters whose decisions are based on nothing more than 'I don't like the looks of him' (and that, I would bet, is what motivates more voters than we would like to admit). I have to say that my overall impression of Elizabeth Warren influenced my vote the other day, and based on this alone I was amazed Scott Brown lost. The holds are off now, and I would guess Massachusetts will soon find that they have elected to the senate a humorless, disdainful scold to represent them - which has always been my impression of Elizabeth Warren.

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You seem to be judging a candidate in the same way as the others you complain about -- superficially.

It's how she votes that counts. And you definitely won't be happy with how she votes.

 

For the love of god, she hasn't even started the job yet.  She was 36 hours removed from a grueling race.  Seriously, dude, get a life.  If she becomes the equivalent of Clarence Thomas and is the Silent Senator, then sure -- whack her all you want.  But that she wasn't magnanimous enough in her first post-election press conference?  Give me a break.  Lighten up.  

Yet another waste of ink in the Globe.  I honestly question the paper's judgment far more than I should -- and far more than I used to when it was actually engaged in journalism.

You get what you voted for moonbats. She will likely go down as one of the most ineffective senators ever to represent MA. Her hyper-partisanship may appeal to the liberal northeast but she now has to go to Washington and work with those she demonized throughout her campaign. No Richard Lugar there to bond with. It will be great fun to hear all the blame heaped on "others" (those nasty Republicans) as an excuse for her failure to accomplish half of what Scott Brown did in two years.

Dear Brian, 

 

Scott Brown lost. And it wasn't even close. Time to move on to something new. 

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This is the same kind of shallow criticism he heaped on Deval Patrick after he defeated Charlie Baker.

When you demean a woman by asking her about her "feelings" instead of what she is "thinking" then yes she will be a bit testy.  She has been through months of this and she's had enough of it as have we all.

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Did her first press conference after her election night win leave something to be desired? It sure did. But let's give Elizabeth Warren a little time to grow into her new role of U.S. senator, shall we? Most of us don't have to plant ourselves before all of those tv cameras and reporters in the days after the completion of a huge project (i.e. an election, in her case). Let's let her get some rest, get ready to head to D.C., then let her knock our socks off. Just a little patience, please.

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She is a phony.  Plain and simple.  She really thinks she's better than everyone else.

Talk is cheap. Wait for action.

She's not an experienced politician so she doesn't have a bible in her back pocket telling her how to treat you reporter types who expect politicians to polish your backsides.

She answered the questions without giving you two paragraphs of meaningless junk for your news stories, so you have to crab about it because you might have to actually get creative.

I couldn't less whether she's a great effusive speaker at a news conference. All I care about is how she performs in the Senate. You, apparently, care more about the former.

 

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She answered the questions after looking to Deval Patrick for help. What's she gonna do when she's on the Senate floor and has to think quick on her feat? I can't believe that so many people fell for her act. The Democratic machine and big unions are back in business I guess.

If you think *anything* is decided on the Senate floor, you live in a fantasyland. That ended two or three generations ago. Legislation is written and vetted in committees and backrooms and then brought to the floor for a vote. Those who deliver speeches do it to a nearly empty chamber, but they get their words in the Congressional Record.

Machines, otherwise known as grassroots organizations, are the result of hard work by volunteers that go door to door. There's nothing sinister about them, except in the minds of Republicans who have distain for us common folks. They might get their hands dirty. Democrats carry the vote in most urban areas because they have a big tent and everybody is welcome.


 

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Are your surprised by her conduct? She acted the same way during the campaign as she ducked and dodged from reporters. The sainted Liberal Messiah does not like being questioned, and certainly does not have any credible answers. She was packaged by her handlers and offered little more than empty cliches. The Boston Globe enabled Liz Warren throughout the campaign by its softball treatment of her. Contrary to your assertion, she was not open and honest during the campaign. Indeed, she failed and refused to offer substantive questions about her practicing law without a license in Massachusetts, her theft of recipes from the New York Times News Service that she contributed to the POW WOW CHOW COOKBOOK, her falsely claiming Native American status over a course of nine years when she checked the box in a Law School Professor directory, her flipping foreclosed properties for profit in Oklahoma, her receipt of a 350K per year salary to teach one course at HLS, her denial of any knowledge that Harvard was touting her alleged woman of color status. Liz lied throughout the campaign, and you coddled her. Shame on you for beating up on Brown and promoting a woman of such poor character.

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You sound like what we're now hearing about self critisism within conservative circles and Fox News.  Propaganda and belief of their demonizing allegations were so consuming, they couldn't believe they lost the presidency and Senator Brown's seat.  Your missive is a perfect example of these dillusions.  Everything you say is just creative demonizing, twisting facts and total nonsense. 

She's an extraordinary lady who married too young, then came from nowhere through adult education programs at state colleges and reached the highest level within the ranks of academia.  And now she's a senator.  Just amazing! 

It is true that Elizabeth Warren obviously stuck to stock, lawyered up phrases like the "I didn't ask my parents for documentation, what kid would?" response (about her checking the box as a 38 year old lawyer suddenly discovering her heritage)  or the "millionaires and billionaires" ( herself being one of the former and the latter consisting of 2 individuals in the state, Ernie Boch and Robert Kraft).

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Elizabeth Warren worked closely wtih Holly Patreus in the consumer protection arena.  My guess is that Warren had already heard about David Patreus's resignation and admitted affair with his biographer, therefore she was upset.  Go easy folks.

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Yes, and I've heard that Paula Broadwell is an aide to Warren?  Can someone confirm that?  Anyway ...  I agree that Warren might have upset by those events.  Question is, if it was a matter of national security,  why did it wait months before Petraeus was forced out?  You know the answer.

 

"Question is, if it was a matter of national security,  why did it wait months before Petraeus was forced out?"

You don't know that. No story I've read indicates that anyone knew anything about it until a few days ago. Of course, I don't do much reading of blogger fiction, whatever the blog's political slant. It may be that lots of people knew, even the White House, but at this point it's irresponsible for you to be stating as a fact something you've made up.

 

If Paula Broadwell worked for Warren, it certaily wouldn't make any difference.  From what little I've read of Broadwell, she's extremely bright and very capable.

Too bad David Patreus didn't have the historic fortune like Eisenhower with his Kay Summersby affair.  It was kept quiet and then revealed after he died.

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And nobody seems to know how many affairs John Kennedy had, but rumors say that the back stairs at the White House were pretty busy. :-)

 

The couple ridiculous answers you mention were nothing compared to the answer about defense spending when she looke at Deval to answer and he replied "defense spending is yours." Those of us who didn't vote for her can only say "I told you so." She has no clue and will be a disaster as senator.

It doesn't matter what she says and does.  The liberal fools in this state will vote for her no matter what.  I never could stand that women.  She thinks she's better than everyone else!!

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In my life experience, when someone accuses another of thinking "she's better than everyone else," it usually has much more to do with the accuser's self-perception than it does with the accused's behavior.