Mormons have posthumously baptized Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street Journal reporter killed by Islamic terrorists in Karachi, Pakistan in 2002. His last words included an affirmation of his Jewish faith. Mormons baptize deceased Jews and members of other religions as part of a rite intended to give them access to salvation. But the practice has stirred outrage among some Jewish leaders. In 1995, the church, after meeting with Jewish leaders, agreed to stop baptizing Holocaust victims.
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What is wrong with these people? First it was Anne Frank. Then they tried but failed to baptize Elie Wisel (idiots didn't realize he was dead). Now this. It's time for the ADL to step in. This is really gross.
It's utter arrogance. Apparently Mormons think they should feel sorry for us because they are so much better. Their presumptuousness is without equal.
This baptism of those who did not have not chosen to be baptized is disrespectful, and in fact makes a mockery of what baptism is. The leadership of the Mormon Church has ways of controlling this practice and if they are sincere in their apologies, will immediately take steps to stop this.
It is astounding to me that this issue is an "issue." I almost expect Cardinal Dolan to demand an investigation, supported by Rick Santorum, to see if any Catholics were baptized in Salt Lake City ...secretly and after they had died. As if this made any difference at all to the deceased. Do all these people believe that the "afterlife" is just a continuation of the divisive, strutting, self-centered, posturing, holier-than-thou attitudes so prominent on this side of the existential divide? If someone decided to rebaptize my parents my response would be to inform them not to expect increased donations from their graves. Ain't gonna happen. Sectarian views like those of Santorum affect me as JFK's views affect them. Do we learn nothing from the murderous crowds who are so exercised about the burning of the Koran? Should it have been done? No. It was disrespectful. Is it worth the trampling deaths of young children, burning homes and schools, blowing up buses? No...that makes me want to throw up. Do we want to bring that kind of consciousness into the American public sphere? If the guy next door wants to go down to his basement, light a candle, and declare that, because of his intercession, my parents will enter some heavenly realm, my response is "Have a good day." On the other hand, if that guy wants to deny my adult children medical insurance on the basis that he believes it is morally wrong to provide access to vaccination, I have a stronger response. Keep your private religious beliefs away from my rights as a citizen and a voter. And that goes for Cardinal Dolan too.
The unmitigated gall of such a procedure is mind-boggling. Shall those of us in the religious communities from which the Mormon church has selectively chosen a few for salvation start "un-baptising" dead Mormons without consultation, to make sure they don't face the fire and brimstone we might choose to imagine for those who remain Mormon? Baptism by proxy, indeed.
How presumptuous! Leave dead people alone. They do not choose to join your cult in life, and it shows arrant disrespect to claim them as Mormons after death. This is a shameful practice and should be stopped immediately.
Several years ago the Southern Baptist Convention announced that it would hold its annual meeting in Salt Lake city and that some time and resources would be devoted to converting Mormons to the one true (Southern Baptist) faith. Naturally, the Mormons were outraged; they said so, and the SBC quietly dropped that item from their agenda. The only difference is that now it's everyone else who is outraged and the LDS that is putting its beliefs above all others.
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As the descendant of Holocaust survivors who were the only members of their families to survive, I understand the emotional response to this bizarre practice...but it's not really rational. I read Eli Weisel's rant about this practice, and I simply don't agree with him. How does it injure me or my ancestors? How does it harm their legacy? It really doesn't. Technically they're not even really baptizing the dead...they're OFFERING baptism to the dead, and according to their beliefs the dead in the afterlife have the option of accepting it or declining it, just like the living. If it makes the Mormons happy to do this, who cares? They're not hurting anybody with it. I'd much rather they be offering baptisms to the dead than proselytizing in the faces of the living. Think of it this way: if a family member of yours was sick and a person who practices a religion you don't believe in said to you "I'm praying your family member gets better," would you be offended? Or would you accept it graciously knowing it doesn't affect you or your loved one?
I'm neither Mormon nor Baptist. But I can see a huge difference between harassing the living and offering prayers for the dead. One is intrusive, the other is not.
This is an abomination, as it is with Anne Frank and Simon Wiesenthal and all other Jews. Jews do not believe in baptism and the Mormon church has no right to impinge upon Judaic law or to claim Jews as their own. CUT IT OUT.
A voice of reason. Thank you. There's simply no good reason to care about this! Let them do what they want as long they're not bothering anybody.
"Shall those of us in the religious communities from which the Mormon church has selectively chosen a few for salvation start "un-baptising" dead Mormons?" If it'll make you feel better, go right ahead. Perhaps it will help you realize how pointless it is to be bothered by this, since you know that what you do won't have any affect on the Mormons at all.
Should rabbis go into morgues and posthumously circumsized dead mormons?
The arrogant defending the arrogant.
Uh huh...feel better now, "who-cares"? Did calling me "arrogant" simply because I don't share your outrage and I'm not going into hysterics over a bizarre but harmless religious practice make you feel like a big shot? Whatever it is that makes you so hostile toward Mormons, I've got nothing to do with it. And frankly, I suspect Mormons have little to do with it, too. Maybe you should get some help for your problem.
You don't honestly believe that's a legitimate comparison, do you?