SPRINGFIELD — Senator Scott Brown and his Democratic challenger, Elizabeth Warren, had some of their most spirited debate exchanges yet on Wednesday night, but beyond the sound and fury, two simple, substantive lines of attack emerged.
Brown, the Republican incumbent, cast himself as the guardian of lunch-bucket and other middle-class voters, as he accused Warren of viewing tax increases as a panacea for all the country’s ills.
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Besides the debates today, the State Department was questioned by Congress as to the REAL cause of the Libyan embassy attack. The State Department has acknowledged that the embassy was obviously a large scale terrorist attack. The members directly contradict Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Globe "Fact Check" refuses to report this major news. The hearings are on C-Span ---This was a COVERUP that makes Watergate look like child's play. Nobody was killed at Watergate. -The news media, including the Boston Globe has willlingly participated in this shameful coverup. --Elizabeth Warren indicated that she would have supported Barack Obama's actions here. Scott brown would not.
And the REAL 9/11 on the Twin Towers was a cover up of MONUMENTAL proportions. The Republican administration KNEW as they were warned in the PDB. Condolezza Rice danced around it during the hearings and in that case need I remind you that 3000 were killed and then thousands upon thousands more waging a war based on lies. Few Republicans then held their feet to the fire. Why? Because a Repubican administration was not going to prosecute itself. The point is the engagement in that neck of the woods is HUGE and stuff happens. The president cannot be aware of EVERYTHING on planet earth including two wars and other incursions PLUS Repubicans voted to defund the protection of embassys. Am I excusing it? NO but what is good for the goose is good for the gander. It's the way politics works. I bet if the two administrations one Democrat and one Republican could do things over they would rectify the sin of omission that cost lives during the real 9/11 MANY lives plunging a world not just this country but a world into a state of seige and war. Republicans blather on and on and on about spending less and when a bill came up to increasingly fund the embassies they did not.
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Ms. Warren yet again was EXCELLENT!! TAXES is NOT a dirty word. Our Founders did not find taxes a dirty word. What they did not like is taxes without representation. It is NOT evil to say that the Federal government SHOULD have a role in the well being of the nation. 50 states on SOME issues CANNOT be allowed to go their own way. IF taxes are levied on the higest scale of millionairs and billionaires, leaving the middle class untouched then the policy FOR ALL of our people is uniform and productive instead of 50 states going their own way on for example on health care and jobs and infrastructure repair sorely needed. WE ALL need economic help but the middle class needs it more than anyone else as Wall Street is SWIMMING in bucks made often frauduently off of our backs.
Conservatives operate on our age old dispute what is the role of the Federal government with respect to funding of vital national growth and protective programs? FDR's New Deal set a NEW STANDARD OF the federal government hertofore left out of day-to-day business operations then fully involved in regulating a segment of the economic system that had gone WILD. Teddy Roosevelt did it before FDR with the busting of trusts and monopolies giving unfair advantage to the megga rich and not anyone else. The Great Depression sprang from that. I would love to hear Senator Warren on the campaign trail make this PERFECTLY clear. PAYING TAXES IS AN OBLIGATION and the citizens surely do love what the government can produce. Well someone has to pay for it and Elizabeth Warren our brilliant candidate KNOWS that who should pay for it are those in the upper echelons of the econmic ladder. SHE IS ABOUT MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE and we the 99% paying less!
I love her today as much as I did when I first saw her on Moyers. I say it over and over and over again. She is a GEM, a price above rubies and the citizens of Massachusetts should have a candidate committed to the middle class and SHE IS but her opponent Brown is absolurely 100% NOT ABOUT THAT. He receives payment from big banks, big business and big corporations and big oil. He worked representing a company that has been investigated for perpetrating liars loans the horror that got us into the mess in the first place. Who is more important the 1% OR most of YOU!
She is going to WIN this election, she SHOULD win this election and I will be so PROUD to retake the seat by someone who CARES about most of us. I will be SO PROUD to be from Massachusetts and to call her Senator Warren. I LOVE YOU ELIZABETH. As far as I am concerned she won the debate hands down despite her opponent Brown's Gatling gun delivery. She had the delivery of someone who is SURE of her position. So I say it's ON TO WIN THE SENATE by winning it for this state!!!
...Elizabeth Warren has never held a job where meeting payroll demands, health insurance demands, govt. regulations, etc. were of any concern to her...It's very easy to peer from above and make decisions about buzz word groups like "Big Oil", "Billionaires & Millionaires", "The 1%", etc. She will be a rubber stamp for any and all Washington democrat policies and that is no way to repaire the deep financial ditch this country has fallen into...Creative soltutions requiring compromise, negotiation, etc. not partisan politics are necessary and Senator Scott Brown has the local level and now national level government independent experience we need...Scott Brown had my vote in 2010 and he has it in 2012!
Norsen did not watch the same debate that I watched last night maybe because she was home practicing writing her comment letter with a style popular with sophomores in high school of using all CAP LETTERS TO MAKE A POINT. How boring. If Norsen did a little more reading of the great Presidents and Senators of our Country she would realize that the one common denominators they had was the could work deals out with the other party. Ms. Warren will not do that. Scott Brown has done that already. Ms. Warren’s big point was Senator Brown did not vote 100% of the time for women. He exclaimed that it was not right to force religious institutions to be required to carry out the governments mandated birth control legislation that is contrary to their beliefs. Do you not agree that our founding fathers fought for freedom of religion and if you think hard they would agree with the position of Scott Brown? As to the other issue the professor kept repeating Yes, Senator Brown did not vote for her former boss to be on the Supreme Court of the United States for one reason. She had no experience as a sitting judge, what’s so ever.
There are too many voters who DO NOT KNOW Senator Brown, and regrettably, there are too many voters who DO NOT KNOW Prof. Warren, but believe Warren & the Democrat’s lore.
The article says that Brown complained that Warren’s call for defense cuts would harm two local military institutions. That was just a scare tactic on Brown's part. Elizabeth called for cuts in defense spending in order to use the money for education, research and infrastructure. She specifically mentioned cutting army ground forces NOT the military installations in western MA. That was a falsehood used as a scare tactic by Brown.
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Sexist belittleing- nice language there User-man. Apparently the real world is working through bullying and intimidation? Same kind of smugness, smarminess and sarcasm exhibited by Brown. Tempted to report your message but I think everyone should see what you're like.
Warren's comment about Brown not voting to put a pro-choice woman on the Supreme Court shows just how little she knows about the role of the Supreme Court. Their role is not to be pro-choice, pro-life, or pro/anti anything else. The Supremes interpret the laws passed by our elected representatives to determine if they violate the principles or our constitution. That is what they do. They are not supposed to "vote" on laws based on being "pro" or "anti".
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The point is that everyone has a pretty good idea of the philisophical leanings of the various candidates for these court appointments. To pretend they DON'T is either naive or moronic. This is one of the single biggest issues for electing BOTH our next senator and president. Never have we seen a more obstrcuctionist congress...particularly regarding appointment confirmations. They have blocked more appointments than ever before. The "independence" that Brown has demonstrated thus far is due more to the fact that he has been in office less than two years and has always kept a careful eye on the upcoming election in such an obviously liberal, Democrat dominated state. Don't be fooled. On every truly important and close vote he'll be with the obstructionists when it matters. THAT is why Scott Brown must be defeated more than any other reason.
You can usually tell who is behind in a race by the desparation and shrill tone of the posts. Need I say more?
The one thing that is clear after three debates is that Liz isn't qualified for the job!! Her childlike refrain of taxing the rich ignores basic economics. Taxing the rich also raises taxes on small businessmen who don't net much money, and it crushes new job creation. That is why Democrats didn't raise taxes when they had all the votes they needed for two years to do so! Because enough of them understand basic economics to know that would only make the problem worse! Liz Warren doesn't seem to have gotten the memo!! Liz Warren pretends that if we just let he tax the rich, all of America's problems will go away, when, in fact, basic knowledge of basic economics should inform her that taxing the rich will crush new jobs because it also taxes small businesses who create all the new jobs. Worse, taxing the rich only brings-in 15% of what Obama wants to spend over the next ten years. The other 85% gets to be paid by YOU the middle class!! You get to pay $5.3 trillion of 'EXTRA' Obama spending! Taxing the rich doesn't come close to solving the problem, any problems, but it puts a wet blanket on job creation. We are spinning our wheels going absolutely nowhere exactly because of this Democrat ignorance of economics. And Liz may be the dumbest of them all repeating this stuff! That she is still repeating the same Democrat economic fantasy three years later should be the final nail in her candidacy.
God bless our job-creators!
I love how low the threshold for competence is for Democrats and their candidates: the measure of Liz's success in debates has been whether she 'speaks clearly and calmly'. Hello?!?!?! How about having experience as a selectman, state rep, mayor, or state senator? How about running a company with 100 employees and meeting payroll every two weeks??!?! Liz Warren has done nothing in her life to justify her candidacy. She certainly doesn't have the experience worthy of being elected. Don't even get me started on her surprisingly lengthy list of LIES...
Oh, please give us the list of LIES- tell us, tell us!
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So Brown thinks it's irrelevant to talk re his and the Repub party's bias toward millionaires and billionaires.
Preserving jobs at military bases was a focus and accomplishmnet of Ted Kennedy as well.
The old argument against tax hikes for the rich and Corps has been repeatedly debunked but he's using it.
As Tom Menino said when he endorsed Warren,We need a Senator who with us all of the time,not one who is "wishy-washy" and "on the fence" on issues that matter to the people of MA.
Warren has that consistency.
Brown has the opportunistic,shape-shifting approach of Romney,designed to bring gullible voters into the Big Tent.