The Boston Globe

Opinion

JOAN VENNOCHI

Political wives and the politics of pretty

Squat, frumpy spouses who hate public speaking need not apply.

First lady Michelle Obama and Ann Romney, the woman who wants to replace her in that role, are setting new, superstar standards of elegance and eloquence for political wives.

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You're darned hard to please, Joan....if they were excluded from the stage, you'd complain that they were ignored and treated as subjugated inferiors; if they spoke on foreign policy, you'd warn that they were silent partners in governance, and that we were really getting a stealth president in the form of an active spouse; and if they were unattractive, or wore common clothes, you'd criticize them for not taking the time and money (which they both have an abundance of)to preen for the occasion. The fact is that these are both powerful partners of men running for office; they are both intelligent, and will undoubtedly have some influence over their husbands' decision-making processes. I WANT to see who they are, how they express themselves, and what, in their eyes, makes their husbands the right choice. And I want to see them present themselves as they will be seen by others around the world - not in jeans and a T shirt. Ease up, Joan; there are important issues to address - like how either man, even with their wives' help, will find a way out of this debacle we call an economy. Enough on the fashion critique.

Not only do you get history wrong, you are wrong.  Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan, Lady Bird Johnson, Bess Truman and Eleanor Roosevelt somehow did not come into your messaging.  Lincoln's wife was a source of derision by the press and for most of our history wives had little or no political role.  Ann Romney has a history of some concern for her community and Michelle Obama was an administrator of a large hospital.  Joan, what in the world are you saying?  If the issue is that we are over-mediarized and everything becomes a peeing contest today, there is a small point there.  However to hollow out these women who have a history of contribution is to denigrate your own sex.  For most people the First Lady should represent the smarts, the dignity of their spouse's office, and what efforts they support or do to contribute to the betterment of this country.  If they cut a striking figure and love their husband that is just a plus.  Elizabeth Edwards stood on her own and people admired her not because she was John Edward's wife but in the limelight showed what this country had fostered and that she had accomplised much.  Joan, get a grip.  You are off the reservation today.

An interesting piece Joan although one gets the feeling you had to stretch to give it some meaning.  Let's face it for the average American voter the decision on who to vote for comes down to a very small movement in voting trends.  For most Repubs or Dems you could have someone on the ticket who's policies would leave them without aid, without work, without hope and they'd vote for the guy as long as he didn't lay it out there.  That portion of the public really doesn't listen, they merely root for the team.  We have maybe 2 or 3 percent of truly independent voters and data suggests we generally don't decide anything until the debates are finished.  Then we have the low info voters perhaps 5 percent and these are the voters the wives speak too.  These are the "aren't they a handsome couple", "I don't know there is something I just like about him or her", these voters are the ones to which appearance is everything.  Having been in politics a long time, not in this data age so much, but even before selling a candidate is like selling a car, bright and shiny, people seldom look into how the engine runs. 

The "very traditional role" is considered necessary politically because of the intense criticism Hillary... and Nancy and Laura, in their own way... have received from those to whom a woman's power is frightening.  I am sure it is difficult for accomplished, intelligent women to play a softer role.  But let's face it, most of us have been raised to navigate that minefield.

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I think you comment shows a dearth of historical knowledge and understanding. People are different, and so far we haven't had a woman as President. Nevertheless, at least since Eleanor Roosevelt many first ladies have created other high profile jobs and responsibilities. Not all have done that, but as I said, people are different. None of them are carbon copies of another, as you and this column seem to imply. I seriously doubt you know what goes the mind of any particular first lady. How could you? I'm not sure what the "very traditional role" is, but the wife of a President is not President, and hasn't been elected. Eventually we'll have a female President. What do you propose as the "very traditional role" for the first gentleman.

 

Nope - no, American woman for president for this country for many, many more years.

Americans would rather elect a community organizer with questionable skills and no leadership skills. But, the Democrat party's choice for Hillary Rodham Clinton to be appointed  Secretary of State, has showcased her steller resume and work ethic, coupled with her diplomatic skill. She has made this presidency look better than the facts of Obama's many errors.

We live in such interesting times. Why does the media still reduce women to this? The times have changed, but reading an OpEd piece like this, you'd never know it.

Joan, I am surprised that you chose a cynical versus celebratory approach. Isnt it progress that these high profile, successful, powerful men have chosen beautiful, intelligent, accomplished, powerful women as life companions versus a trophy wivesHistorically, and still too often, powerful men choose pretty, buxom, dutiful, bejeweled, silently suffering, perfect-mother, smart-enough women to accessorize their powerful manhood. Now, men in the US are more comfortable with and even prouder of being strong enough to share the spotlight and responsibilities with a wife equal to themselves. In fact, one of those first ladies still might become president someday; dont count Hilary out. Wouldnt it be something is someday the role of first lady became a more reliable road to the Presidency than that of Vice President?  Your article was a bit sexist and judgemental and missed an opportunity to share in the spirit of the Democratic Conventions showcase of women's strength and potential.

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Actually - The Republican Convention showed many more powerful women that the Dems: also the Republican women who were showcased were elected to powerful offices.

On the other hand, every President's wife finds a "project" to devote her time to and Mrs.Obama just so happens to have the largest paid staff of any former first lady.

 

 

 

 

 

Because Mitt Romney is a person who does not brag about the charity work he does because to him is something to be done in private. But the democrats have pictured him as a cold calculating individual, which he is not. I am glad that Ann Romney brings out his kindness and thoughtfullness to others. Remember he did not take a salary as governor or president of the Olympics. Also he gave away all his inheritence and when he was first married, didn't have that trust fund and therefore lived in that basement apartment and not in luxury that the democrats love to portray in doing. Mitt Romney earned his wealth not like the Kennedy's or John Kerry who married his and they never did without anything and certainly didn't give it away. Remember Michelle Obama when her husband became a senator she was promoted to an executive job doubling her salary to $317 thousand per year and that was such an important job they have never fill it after she left (yeah right after all they received a $1 million dollar grant after that). First ladies do play a role in helping their husbands and both will with the grace and class they have.

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As he said he lived off of his stocks and he did not give away his inhertance he merely stated he didn't use it.  Second, let me add his job approval rate when he left Mass. was 34% we didn't exactly love him and if you are a conservative you have no reason to even like him.

@Beantowndebater, please google "Romney leveraged buyout" and educate yourself on the Gordon Gekko strategies Mitt Romney has pursued to make his fortune. If that, plus the 212 days he was out of state during the final year of his term as governor, pursuing his future in higher office at his state's expense, don't move you, then by all means vote the Romney ticket.

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I don't understand why a wife supporting her husband by making a speech is demeaning to women. I don't see it as any different than a son or daughter, or a cousin, or a non-related friend.


Why does cynicism permeate so many of your columns? You seem to find something negative in every subject you write about, and often it's a purposeful stretch.

I am glad to hear someone else saying it.

I will admit all biases here. I am pro-Obama. But even I do not care that he "negotiates middle school relationships".

I thought Michelle Obama stuck to policy for the most part. I did not hear Ann Romney's speech but from what I heard about it, I was disapointed that she could not stick to policies. I dont care whether they are willing to say they love one another. I wouldn't expect them to say anything else.

Maybe we should require that those who speak stick to policy, no matter who they are.

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Geeesh - for anyone to comment on a subject they admit to not being familiar with not only destroys their credibility, but their comments become destructive fodder rather than valid analysis.

Michelle Obama is more popular than her husband. She has her own causes: fitness, healthy food, education, etc. Her speech, unlike Ann Romney's, linked her husband's character to his policies. Michelle Obama is the best first lady in my memory.  

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Wonder who wrote Mrs.Obama's speech? Do you think she is proud of America now that she has lived in the White House for 4 years? It appears she wants to stay in Washington. . . so, perhaps Air Force 1 flights for date-nights in NY appeal to her . . .

Anyone else curious about where Joan got this story?

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Anyone curious if Mrs. Obama is proud of America after 4 years of pampered living?

Mrs. Obama led the pleading, sniveling, game of asking for another term for her husband, and the Democrats are following her pattern of excuses, pleading for more chances!!!! However, this is not a game of chances because this is our lives and the future of this country that the Democrats want to mess with in an every continuing quest to hold onto power.