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Robert L. Turner

The hidden winners and losers in the election

How will characters who aren’t on the ballot fare on Tuesday?

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nothing like fair and or balanced writing. right? how in hades would the voting public know? we never witness it.ma

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When Obama wins, the, Republicans are really going to have to go back to the drawing board and rethink much of the Republican platform. Guys like Mitt and Paul are going to find it more and more difficult to spread their lies and their false promises of trickle down economics. They've got to start proposing a more centrist view from the start of their campaigns and they've got to take Jesus out of their campaign buses and put him back in the churches where Jesus belongs. In fact, another option would be to use Jesus's words as a way to promote moderation and helping the poor. Republicans have definitely lost their way. 

Mitt will finally be out of the public eye for good on Tuesday and just let the Republicans trot out Paul Ryan again in 2016. Please make him the nominee. He would be quickly dispatched and sent packing. Too extreme people, too extreme. The idea that a rape victim should carry the rapist's baby to term is disgusting. Disgusting and vile. It's high time people said so. 

You are so wrong that Jim Lehrer is a loser. He correctly stayed out of the way, as the candidates had agreed, and Romney outdebated a diffident and arrogant Obama. It is Candy Crowley who is the loser. Her credibility as a journalist was ripped to shreds when she rushed to Obama's defense with a dubious "fact check."

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Your comment is proof that the debates "convert" no one, and existing converts to a particular candidate only see/hear what they want to see/hear.

Oh please Lehrer was terrible.  I'm not talking about how he ran the debate but he was the one who picked the questions and those were terrible.  They were generalized, lacked specificity and I knew less about the two candidates positions after the debate than I did before the debate. 

As to Crowley I would prefer to see the moderators call out any candidate who is misstating the facts.  In fact I'd rather see the candidates face tough questioning from the media than each other.  The candidates regardless of party merely throw out pablum responses when debating each other.  Simple, stupid explanations that the public eats up.  Wouldn't you rather here Mitt say exactly what deductions are going?  Wouldn't you rather hear Obama say exactly how he would fix entitlements.  Instead we get I'll save Social Security and I'll cut everyone's taxes without pain.  Come on we should demand more than that.

I only hope that Giermund is right. This election is proving that no position is too extreme to be pronounced.

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"Jeanne357"  Note the invective spewed comment you get back.

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I noticed, attaturk.  I also noticed how many posts get deleted after answering waytoo/system.

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I think some folks need to give it up.  Romney has lost.  You can't lie constantly and expect people to believe you.  Mitt has gotten desperate.  Where is that plant building Jeeps.  Oh yea, in the US. 

L-O-L,  You seem to get all your ideas from Fox News and The Herald.  I am OK with Obama. My women friends are OK with Obama.  You have not proved to me that he has given any tacit approval to ANYTHING you have brought up.  Everything you have brought up is straight from the Tea Party/ Palin handbook and most of it has been given a "pants on fire" rating from Politifact.  Perhaps you might broaden your sources of information and then you will be able to engage people in the intelligent discussions you said you wanted rather than spewing invective.

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{sigh}  This would be so much more fun if only Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich had survived the nominating process.  Still, I don't really consider them "losers" out of this whole affair.

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Clinton apparently read "systems" post.  LOL

Hillary Clinton ought to be seen as one of the 'hiden' losers in this campaign, due to the following:

1. The Democrat party's failure to support her in 2008. They preferred to support a completely inadequate novice.

2. Obama's incompetence smears all Democrats.

3. Bill Clinton's support of Obama will fail to garner the 'Independents' support for his wife.

4. The U.S. electorate will never support her.

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Already gearing up the talking points for 2016.  You don't even know who the Republican nominee is and your supporting him or her.  Now that's objectivity.

As the saying goes, "Beware of teachers and preachers." Reading  the The blatant political bias in Turner's column makes one realize the political indoctrination his students must receive in his class at Northeastern's Graduate School of Journalism (not uncommon in today's schools of journalism, much to the joy of liberals.).

He praises Hillary Clinton's "steady competence" and  for throwing herself "on the live grenade" that the Libyan massacre was becoming. She had no choice but to try and save her politcal career.  It was recently reported that husband Bill has had her hire five lawyers to prepare for the upcoming investigation. Overall, 

Hillary's  accomplishments as Sect. of State ( a gift from Obama)  have been minimal at best. 

Turner, a former Globe reporter, calls Jim Lehrer "a loser" for his handling of Debate 1, obviously upset at Lehrer  for allowing "Romney to be Romney"and not tilting the debate towards the Democrat as Ms. Crowley did.