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Debt limit must not threaten US economy again

The ongoing “fiscal cliff” fireworks in Washington have made for a riveting wonk drama — sequestration! marginal tax rates! chained CPI! — and they may yet result in a sensible deal to avoid an economic cataclysm next year. But part of any eventual settlement should include reforms to ensure this kind of manufactured crisis never again threatens the nation’s economic well-being.

The current negotiations were sparked by last year’s fight over the debt limit — a statutory cap, instituted during World War I, on how much the government can borrow. Breaking with decades of precedent, House Republicans refused to raise the limit last year. They claimed to be taking a stand against government spending, but their focus on the debt limit confused the issue of spending with that of borrowing. Essentially, the House GOP took the creditworthiness of the United States — its ability to pay for spending lawfully approved by Congress itself — as a hostage in a policy fight over future budgets.

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The fiscal cliff was created by the president, who refused to negotiate with Republicans on reductions in spending, and continues on that track to this day. But the debt ceiling is one of the few levers of power for the GOP, which has been insulted and spat upon by this president. A unilateral decision to ignore the debt limit would be the latest in a series of power grabs that have made this president truly dictatorial. He acts like he has the sole power to determine which laws he apply to him. But it is beyond stunning that a once serious newspaper would endorse this behavior.

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Reductions to medicare and social security was proposed but rejected by the GOP because they don't want to increase tax for the wealthy.

Funny, when W boosted the debt limit with his disastrous wars and tax cuts, Congress played right along raising the debt limit without any comment or fanfare.  And, lo, there was no acrimonious accusations that he "insulted and spat upon" the other party.

Your opinion is your own but your dramatization is both biased and insulting.

Merry Christmas, Richmond.  Can't even get Christmas Eve off from needing to respond to the insanity that has become politics 2012. Like Mitch McConnell, I thought the idea of giving President Obama the ability to exceed the debt limit all by himself was a joke! and yet, here is it, in our own Globe editorial.  Merry Christmas, Globe.  16 trillion, 20 trillion, 50 trillion -- what's the difference, and why stop there? Never thought our country's only hope would be for China to refuse to lend such an irresponsible country more money.

I realize it is fun to politically blame one party or one person for creating the debt ceiling but the truth is the three branches could not come to an agreement, the Pres. could not get what he wanted, Boehner can't control his party and the Dem. senate has held out as it should for the House to originate spending bills as it should.  The fact is all are complicit in the fiscal cliff's existence.  However going over it, Boehner owns. 

As to the debt ceiling.  What a joke.  Repubs. now want to treat as a spending vehicle whereas in actuality it is nothing more than a confirmation that the govt. will pay for spending decisions it has already committed itself too and borrowed money for.  Frankly if the Republican's wish to play with the debt limit then the President and I don't care  Repub. or Dem. should simply say fine and shut down the govt. or two ignore the Congress.  But this playing with the thing year after year needs to stop.  It is purely the action of a group of Representatives who do not wish to govern but merely wish to obstruct.  It's time they were forced to act like adults and do their job.

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sorry, "blame one party or one person for the fiscal cliff."

On wait! No one has to lend us more money.  We can just inflate our currency more! I'll bet this will be the Globe's Christmas Day editorial -- a plea for inflation, no, why stop there? hyper-inflation!  You don't even have to print the dollars anymore, you can do it with electronic transfers!  

Seriously.  I am going to assume that responsible Globe editors took the week off and let a college freshman intern, fresh from his first semester's economics class where he learned about "social justice", write the holiday editorials.

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Merry Xmas "Barbara".  I suppose if we just shut the govt. down when we refuse to pay our bills you might also have a happy New Year.  An America without govt.  Just messing with you a little have a Happy Holiday, gotta go.

Unfortunately this is no joke. The Globe has said this before, although not in such a BRAZEN fashion. 

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So the "solution" to the debt limit problem is to let a president ignore the law (and act, unilaterally, without precedent) or not even attempt to negotiate the matter or for Congress to simply roll over and give up the power and responsibility to limit debt? This is what the Globe suggests is a responsible path to addressing a level of spending that is on a scale of WWII like consumption of GDP. Just let a president, who's shown no interest in reigning in any kind of spending, spend without an iota of restraint? Its one thing for the Globe to be an unbridled cheerleader for everything Obama does but when you advocate giving ANY president the kind of power you are suggesting here it shows that the Globe isn't merely partisan but contemptuous of protecting the public interest. No president should have the power to ignore rational laws aimed at keeping SOME semblance of spending sobriety.

Hey Honey? Yes Dear?  I want to get a Lexus, ok?  Ok Dear.  Oh, I would like to get that second home we always dreamed about in Aspen, too, ok?  Ummm, honey....  It's ok dear, we are going to finance both of those.  Oh yea, Let's get you that new car too, while we are at!

Sweety, I just did some figuring, we cannot make those payments.

That is ok, just raise our debt ceiling!  Yanno, like Obama does.

Ummm, Sweety, that is not the way the rest of the world works.

It doesn't?

Nope.

--end of play--

Where in the world do any of you get the idea that just because a bunch of politicians decide they want to spend money, then someone else has to raise the debt ceiling to accomodate it?  Are you kidding me?

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Some of us get the idea from the fact that the Congress already bought the Lexus, the second home.  Now you can have it repossessed at the cost of your credit rating or you pay the bill.  Assuming you don't want to be a "dead beat" you pay the bill.

Globe editor says "Breaking with decades of precedent, House Republicans refused to raise the limit last year." Of course the Globe completely IGNORES that Barack Obama has ignored decades of precdent in running his office. This editorial by the far left (actually the FAR, FAR, FAR Left) Boston Globe is not only astounding for what it advocates, but for what it also admits to.---The Globe is ADMITTING that it knows that Barack Obama has knowingly violated the US Constitution and his oath of office. And he intends to CONTINUE doing so, even though at his second inaguaration he will once again SWEAR, with his handle on a Bible, to uphold the US Constitution. These are acts that call for his Impeachment....And the Globe's editor obviously ADMIRES the Leftist dictators Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, Peronist Cristina  Kirchner of Argentina, and the latest dictator Mohammed Morsi. All three of them came to power by pledging to be moderates who would uphold their countries Constitutions. Now all three are trying to change their constitutions to give them absolute power.

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You must really hate this guy for some reason to go on a rant on impeachment.  Is it just him or the fact he's a Dem.  The fact is the use of the 14th Amend. while not something I would favor is there if the Congress refuses to meet its obligations in paying US debt.  This is not debt about to be created it is debt the Congress has already committed itself and the good faith of the US govt.  to.  If the Congress seriously moves not to pay its bills then I agree the Pres. should shut the govt. down or invoke the 14th. 

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

Which is exactly what the Congress would be ignoring, the validity of the public debt.

attaturk, it's not clear whether Miker's hatred for Obama is "just him, or the fact that he's a Dem" or his race, or the crazy stuff Miker sees on Fox News.  It's something irrational, because he wants to impeach Obama, but can't name a single thing Obama has done in violation of the Constitution (that hasn't been done routinely by all recent presidents), or even cite a single proposal Obama has made to amend the Constitution at all, much less in a way to give him absolute power.  Of the possible reasons listed above, my guess is that he watches a lot of Fox News and isn't bright enough to realize that nothing he sees there is true.

It would be a really interesting conversation if some of the dead enders knew what the "debt limit" actually is.  It isn't a spending bill.  It doesn't allow the President to spend more money.  In fact the President doesn't spend money.  The fact is the "debt limit" merely says that the Congress will pay the bills that the Congress has already incurred.  The dead enders will say the President hasn't submitted a budget that has yet been passed and they are right.  So who's budgets have been passed.  Oh right, the Congress's spending authorizations have been used.  So who's spent the money.  The Congress.  What does the debt limit say?  It says wthe US will pay its bills.  What a novel and conservative thing to do.  Pay your bills. 

Conservatives, I shouldn't say conservatives because these folks aren't consrvatives.  They're dead enders.  They will say he's violating the Constititution.  Really!  You all love to read the constititution without interpretation.  Where does it mention "debt ceiling".  Nowhere.  It might all be worth an interesting discussion of legalities and budgets if it weren't for the fact that it is nothing but politics and of course some whining by the dead enders who lost the last election.

Also, the Globe editor isn't honest here when it discusses the role of the Treasury Department. There is also Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve, which, like other central banks is the organization that actually prints money. Barack Obama officially has NO CONTROL over what the FED does, although it definitely tries to please Washington politicians. And besides the editor, even the Globe's Steven Syre doesn't tell the readers about the Federal Reserve Bank. ..BUT other countries are well aware. In today's WSJ is the headline "Global Currency Tensions Rise", Japan's incoming prime minister notes "The Federal Reserve's policy of flooding the market with dollars by purchasing massive amounts of Treasury bonds and other assets". Japan, Switzerland, and other countries are getting even with the FED by devaluing their own currencies...If you want REAL financial news and opinions don't read this newspaper.

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I don't give much credit to those on the left or the far right for getting the issues relating to the "fiscal cliff" or the "debt ceiling" right.  They are much to interested in the politics, facts get in the way.