Great trade. The Dodgers were the only team that could make this happen with their willingness to spend money and their desire to have a Latino American superstar in Adrian Gonzalez. Gonzalez wasn't a good fit in this market and Crawford was never going to live up to his contract. Both will be better off in the LA market. Beckett was just fodder in the deal. I'm sure the Dodgers didn't want him and his bloated contract but they had to take him to get Gonzalez. The Dodgers look crazy for taking on these contracts but they're about to sign a monster tv deal that will easily pay for this. A great trade for both sides. Kudos to Cherington and his staff, and for Sox ownership for letting him pull the trigger. It's an admission of guilt on ownerships part, something they clearly didn't want to do, understandably. It also gives us a window into Cherington's vision for this team. It's a good day for the Sox.
Great trade - undoes some egregious mistakes from the past few years. Clean slate now for the Sox. I think they can be a playoff team as soon next year, especially with the new format. Let's see what they do with this new flexibility.
One more critical item: Bobby V can't come back. Ben should be enabled to pick his Manager -- and that Manager should, in turn, be empowered to select his staff.
Beckett had to go. He was an unrepentant, chicken eating, beer swilling, selfish egomaniac. Carl Crawford was never going to work out. He is in decline and will not thrive anywhere except where he will be fed a steady diet of fastballs. Nick Punto, meh, not much there either way. Adrian Gonzalez is a conundrum,,, he WAS a prolific hitter but supposedly not a "team" guy. I think The Sox MAY be better off but it's going to be a year before we know. 2007 seems a very long time ago and 2004 doesn't even seem real anymore. Ellsbury is gone too, he's going to want (and deserves) a long term deal but his fragility, born of his hell-for-leather style is going to shorten his career. That kid was fun to watch but I always cringed watching his play in the field. He doesnt even seem to see the fences and the like.
I like the trade and would like it even more if it were me saving all that money. I do think though that they should give Bobby Valentine another year to see what he can do without all the distractions of the past season. Now they have some spending money to get good players who don't cost an arm and a leg.....Yes, I do like this trade.
It's about time! Now, what about Lackey? Sorry to lose Gonzo's bat though. Why did they ever let Beltre go????
Still think it would be worth getting Farrel back for 2013.
I'm not from New England and I'm certainly not around the team every day, though I have been a Sox fan for 65 years and watch almost every games on TV. Putting that together, I have a difficult time seeing Gonzalez as "lethargic." What I do see is a guy who can hit, get on base, drive in runs, play great defense. It's hard to understand how letting a player of this caliber go is going to help the team. Still, it seems obvious there would be no trade with the Dodgers without Gonzalez. There was a time I thought Loney was pretty good. Hopefully, he will regain that level of performance to partially make up for the absence of Gonzalez. The rest of the incoming group --- never heard of them. We must presume the Sox scouts etc. know what they are doing.
Memo to ownership: Now that you have rid yourself of these bloated contracts, let's not go crazy in the off season and try to sign Josh Hamilton to a 10 year $200 million contract. Lets learn from this and be smart about who we bring in and under what circumstances.
The book won't be closed on this trade (good, bad, or ugly) until we see what the Sox do with the financial windfall from these dumped contracts. I wonder what they're saying in Chicago. You know, where the "In Theo We Trust" team is watching "the master's" legacy get the wrecking-ball treatment.
Just what the team, the fans (and the remaining players) needed.... Losing Beckett and Crawford means absolutely nothing....losing Gonzalez only means that we might miss what he "could/should have been"...but for two years in a row, he disappeared for half a season.
If any of us were ownership, would we want what all that this money can buy or these three players?....obviously and enthusiastically, the money!
Let's hope that this is only the opening salvo....hopefully along the way we'll get more young and eager guys who give 100% both on the field and in the clubhouse.
I for one can't wait for 2014 and 2015.
long overdue! it's a shame that they let Theo pluck Anthony Rizzo from the Pads for next to nothing. He could have been the replacement for the man he was traded for. I hope this clears the air around Fenway and I look forward to seeing some of the kids get a chance to play. At least they will be proud to wear the uniform and will show us some excitement.
Nice job, what was that that PT Barnum said? Oh yeah, there is a sucker born every min. Let the buyer beware
Gonzalez, while he has decent numbers they are nowhere near what they could or should have been. Beckett, a cancer to the team and Crawford not worth what he was signed for.
For the lofty pedestal that Theo was put on for the World Series wins and his signing/trades, he made a plethora of mistakes in his signings i.e. JD Drew, Edgar Reteria, Carl Crawford, John Lackey just to name some of the poor choices he made.
They now get to start with a relatively clean slate and build it from within with some good strategic signings.
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Looks like a bail out to me!
Pinch Me.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Wipe the slate and start over.
Looks like the Sox will continue to have a second rate team -it just won't cost them as much.
Great trade. The Dodgers were the only team that could make this happen with their willingness to spend money and their desire to have a Latino American superstar in Adrian Gonzalez. Gonzalez wasn't a good fit in this market and Crawford was never going to live up to his contract. Both will be better off in the LA market. Beckett was just fodder in the deal. I'm sure the Dodgers didn't want him and his bloated contract but they had to take him to get Gonzalez. The Dodgers look crazy for taking on these contracts but they're about to sign a monster tv deal that will easily pay for this. A great trade for both sides. Kudos to Cherington and his staff, and for Sox ownership for letting him pull the trigger. It's an admission of guilt on ownerships part, something they clearly didn't want to do, understandably. It also gives us a window into Cherington's vision for this team. It's a good day for the Sox.
Looks like the Sox will continue to have a second rate team,it just won't cost them as much.
It's about time... My hat is off to the owners... Hey Pete.. keep talkin and you'll be next.. Maybe I can start watching them again ???
Great trade - undoes some egregious mistakes from the past few years. Clean slate now for the Sox. I think they can be a playoff team as soon next year, especially with the new format. Let's see what they do with this new flexibility. One more critical item: Bobby V can't come back. Ben should be enabled to pick his Manager -- and that Manager should, in turn, be empowered to select his staff.
Beckett had to go. He was an unrepentant, chicken eating, beer swilling, selfish egomaniac. Carl Crawford was never going to work out. He is in decline and will not thrive anywhere except where he will be fed a steady diet of fastballs. Nick Punto, meh, not much there either way. Adrian Gonzalez is a conundrum,,, he WAS a prolific hitter but supposedly not a "team" guy. I think The Sox MAY be better off but it's going to be a year before we know. 2007 seems a very long time ago and 2004 doesn't even seem real anymore. Ellsbury is gone too, he's going to want (and deserves) a long term deal but his fragility, born of his hell-for-leather style is going to shorten his career. That kid was fun to watch but I always cringed watching his play in the field. He doesnt even seem to see the fences and the like.
I like the trade and would like it even more if it were me saving all that money. I do think though that they should give Bobby Valentine another year to see what he can do without all the distractions of the past season. Now they have some spending money to get good players who don't cost an arm and a leg.....Yes, I do like this trade.
It's about time! Now, what about Lackey? Sorry to lose Gonzo's bat though. Why did they ever let Beltre go???? Still think it would be worth getting Farrel back for 2013.
I'm not from New England and I'm certainly not around the team every day, though I have been a Sox fan for 65 years and watch almost every games on TV. Putting that together, I have a difficult time seeing Gonzalez as "lethargic." What I do see is a guy who can hit, get on base, drive in runs, play great defense. It's hard to understand how letting a player of this caliber go is going to help the team. Still, it seems obvious there would be no trade with the Dodgers without Gonzalez. There was a time I thought Loney was pretty good. Hopefully, he will regain that level of performance to partially make up for the absence of Gonzalez. The rest of the incoming group --- never heard of them. We must presume the Sox scouts etc. know what they are doing.
Memo to ownership: Now that you have rid yourself of these bloated contracts, let's not go crazy in the off season and try to sign Josh Hamilton to a 10 year $200 million contract. Lets learn from this and be smart about who we bring in and under what circumstances.
Almost too good to be true . . . a chance to start over and do it the right way.
Oh YEAH
Unbelievable that the Sox could find someone to do this deal. Now they have to be smart and wise
The book won't be closed on this trade (good, bad, or ugly) until we see what the Sox do with the financial windfall from these dumped contracts. I wonder what they're saying in Chicago. You know, where the "In Theo We Trust" team is watching "the master's" legacy get the wrecking-ball treatment.
Just what the team, the fans (and the remaining players) needed.... Losing Beckett and Crawford means absolutely nothing....losing Gonzalez only means that we might miss what he "could/should have been"...but for two years in a row, he disappeared for half a season. If any of us were ownership, would we want what all that this money can buy or these three players?....obviously and enthusiastically, the money! Let's hope that this is only the opening salvo....hopefully along the way we'll get more young and eager guys who give 100% both on the field and in the clubhouse. I for one can't wait for 2014 and 2015.
long overdue! it's a shame that they let Theo pluck Anthony Rizzo from the Pads for next to nothing. He could have been the replacement for the man he was traded for. I hope this clears the air around Fenway and I look forward to seeing some of the kids get a chance to play. At least they will be proud to wear the uniform and will show us some excitement.
Nice job, what was that that PT Barnum said? Oh yeah, there is a sucker born every min. Let the buyer beware Gonzalez, while he has decent numbers they are nowhere near what they could or should have been. Beckett, a cancer to the team and Crawford not worth what he was signed for. For the lofty pedestal that Theo was put on for the World Series wins and his signing/trades, he made a plethora of mistakes in his signings i.e. JD Drew, Edgar Reteria, Carl Crawford, John Lackey just to name some of the poor choices he made. They now get to start with a relatively clean slate and build it from within with some good strategic signings.