He altered the PEEP hole, not key hole, and installed a camera. This is no publicity stunt. It's what happens when stalkers are given hotel room numbers of their victims. Don't be so naive. This poor woman is damaged as a result of being so publicly violated. People like you have no idea what women endure at the hands of obsessed perverts. Consider yourself lucky.
She's a wanna-be celebrity. My daughter and wife have substantially more sense. I suppose her being an attractive young woman has nothing to do with your sympathy. Don't be suckered by the mass media that promotes celebrity, then claims some go too far. The Globe has no problem making this a lead story, do they? And you have no trouble reading it.
I can't say I followed this incident when it occurred, and I'm not a big fan of sideline reporters, except for after the game interviews, I guess. But I feel bad for this woman. You only get 2.5 years for not only filming, but disseminating it on the Internet? That seems like this jerk was given a lenient sentence. And, by the way, Make Peace Now, if it was a publicity stunt, wouldn't the perv had squealed before going to prison?
Don't worry CapePeanut Brain. She is not going to read this and think you are on her side. She cares far less about you then you apparently care about her. Why is anyone's guess.
There is no rhyme or reason to the legal system.....But a civil suit with a large financial penalty will go a long way to ensure hotels make guests more secure. Going forward, I am sure all hotel chains will use this as an example when training employees. Erin doesn't need the money but we will all benefit.
She can not undo what has been done. All she can do is try the best to make peace with herself knowing it is not her fault. She has to be strong to keep on ignoring those that go on line to seek viewing of this video and move on with her life knowing that her family and many others out there do support her and wishes her the best going forward.
I found it especially interesting that her initial reaction had to do with losing all she had worked for (in addition to feeling violated). I took that to mean that she had probably spent a lot of time and effort on being taken seriously for her journalistic skills, not her looks or body, and this undermined that. A bit of insight into what it's like for women reporters in men's sports.
Are all women really that weak and vulnerable that nude pictures or videos of them on the Internet just destroys their lives?
This is not a shy wallflower. This is a woman who is comfortable on camera with millions watching and who interview athletes. And yet, she was crying often when testifying. Of course, good actors can act sad and cry when it is only an act. I remember that my ex cried at our divorce -- but the fact that there were no tears was a tip off. It was completely fake. Now, Erin shed tears so she would have to be a better actor than my ex.
Of course, the more it impacted her the more she should expect in damages -- and $75 million is a LOT of money.
I know that I personally would hardly be phased if nude pictures of me were circulated on the Internet (both when I was young a good looking and now that I'm old and crummy looking).
Not all people are the same in dealing with trauma, unfortunately. If it were me, not only would I turn my back on the pain, but I'd find a way to make this guy's life miserable if he wouldn't leave me alone. Maybe it would be through the courts, but I can tell you he'd be the one looking over his shoulder. You don't have to do anything illegal to make someone very sorry they messed with you.
When its happened, I've tried convincing some of my friends that that is the only way to really deal with bullies and stalkers, but not everyone is the same. When you get into victim mentality, it is very hard, and for some people impossible, to get out of. My guess is that she could really benefit from counseling. I feel terrible that she's still in this hell. Honey, you don't have to stay where you are now!
Just keep in mind it's not the crime that determines the impact, it's the affect on the victim or wronged party. So, for instance, if you are speeding and the cop that stops you is having a particularly bad day, or is a stickler for traffic law violations, or had a son who died in the traffic accident while speeding, then the fine (and/or penalty) should be much bigger.
It doesn't matter if you don't like her. This is an invasion and subsequent distribution of what she reasonably expected to be private moments in her hotel room. it's all too telling that ESPN regarded it like a "old boys network" And no, a less public person would not get the publicity nor potential settlement that Andrews will receive. Imagine going through life with people in sports audiences catcalling insults towards her. Imagine, college and professional sports audiences with too much too drink in them spitting out their venom...Imagine any children in her future having to hear this stuff.....then maybe some will get a clue
That is their choice and the club's, not to mention that players who have exposed themselves to reporters have been sanctioned in the past. She had NO choice in this surreptitious filming and posting on the Internet.
I'd like to know how the hotel came to reveal that information about Erin's room number to the stalker. Isn't that a violation of some privacy law that the hotel has to adhere to for every guest that signs in to occupy a room?
PatsFan- That is the whole reason of the suit. The hotel clerk willingly gave out Erins room number when the stalker asked which room Erin was staying in. I believe the laws have changed now, but not sure back in 2008. I think that there are privacy laws about that.
he called the front desk from the house phone in the lobby and asked to speak with her. The screen on the desk phone showed the room number, so he asked the desk clerk to give him the room next to hers. Why the software would show the room number in this day and age is beyond me.
I have written it before, I am no fan of hers and think she is completely devoid of any talent but she does not deserve this. What kind of creep does something like that? She is dating a hockey player, maybe they should throw the creep in a locked room with her beau for 10 minutes of so.
There are greater tragedies in the world, such as ISIS kidnapping women, their raping them and those women being sold as chattel as held as sex slaves. Or the Muslim gangs that mass raped and groomed young English girls for years in Rotherham and in other UK cities and the Police wouldn't investigate for upsetting the P.C. social justice warriors, or the mass groping and raping of German and Swedish women by Muslim gangs during New Year's Eve celebrations 2 months ago.
It is easy to minimize what happened to Andrews and say you would shrug it off, handle it better, etc. when it is theoretical. Women who have been stalked--especially by large athletic men--do live in fear and terror and do not face the world in the same way. Many men really don't get this. And it seems that some women don't either.
Absolutely correct. To ridicule Ms.Andrews because she happens to be in the public eye is ridiculous. It is precisely because she is in the public eye in male dominated sports that this stalker went after her, following her from state to state, and decided to publicly humiliate her by posting an illegally obtained video of her doing what many people do in the privacy of their rooms, whether hotel rooms or at home. There are many women out there who have experienced stalking, sexual assault, rape, who may not be celebrities, but we can assure you the impact on ones sense of safety is very real. To believe that this is a promotional gimmick is to ignore that the perpetrator was convicted of a crime. To accuse Ms. Andrews of being an actress on the stand because she cried is cruel, and to base it on the fact that ones ex wife cried on the stand during a divorce proceeding yet shed no tears shows an utter lack of the ability to understand that victims of crime do indeed cry, whereas a divorce proceeding may or may not induce real tears. What small minded and utterly lacking in empathy comments are made on this thread. If you are tired of the coverage, don't waste your time reading the news stories. It's that simple. Passing judgment on a victim of crime is about as low as it gets. Holding yourself to some fantasy standard that your wife and daughter would never find themselves in this position is a fool's position. I would never wish public humiliation or sexual assault on anyone. Pray your perfect wife and daughter do not find themselves on the receiving end of such actions, although I suspect if they ever did find themselves in such horrible circumstances they may be blamed for asking for it too, since they should have "curled up with a good book"... in a burka. Suing for damages would never enter your mind, since they would clearly be seeking attention, as opposed to justice.
No MsCharley, it is because she chooses to be in the public eye and she chooses to be on a network marketed exclusively to teenage boys, promoting a male dominated society and all the culture benefits that go with it. She cannot have it both ways.
Consider this. Both Scarlett Johannson and Jennifer Lawrence went through similar demeaning exploitative exposure scandals over the last two years. Legal action? I'm not sure. But I do know this, they kept making movies, Lawrence making over $50 million last year doing legit work in her field.
How does Andrews come up with $75 million? Is it worth more than an actress like Lawrence made all last year, as Hollywood's top paid actress? $5 million? $10 million? Okay, maybe. $75 million? She should win the lottery? Looks like a setup to me.
I wonder if this would have ever happened if she simply cuddled up with a good book in her hotel room? How did the stalker know she would parade around naked, posing in front of a mirror over and over? That's some luck, no?
I'm constantly shocked at the level to which some people will search for ways to blame men victimizing women on the woman's behavior. It's not enough for our behavior and presentation to be perfect in public; some people will also blame the woman when prying eyes go to great lengths to spy on her when she's in a room behind a locked door with the curtains drawn. How dare she not act with perfect prim propriety at every single second of her entire life!
Did you know, DoctorL, that if a male walks by an open window and see a nude woman in view, she can have him charged under 'peeping Tom' laws? This is regardless of whether or not she was in full public view. Now if a male is caught exposing yourself in a similar situation, a woman viewing him can have him arrested for indecent exposure?
And did you know your assigning your own sensibilities and morality to someone you have never met and know nothing more about then what you read in a newspaper is completely ridiculous? Why, because she is attractive? A celebrity? A woman? In fact, those of us who are skeptical are able to overlook the fact she is a woman and point to the fact she is a celebrity wanna-be first and foremost. It's not whether we trust women, it's whether we trust the cult of celebrity. I don't.
What was done to her was awful, and downright scary...however, to say it's ruined her entire life and to say she'll have to be in therapy for the rest of her life is a bit much. No one even remembered there were pictures of her out there. Most people didn't even know about it in the first place. It hasn't affected her career, nor her standing in the entertainment industry. 75 million is a bit much.
And, to those who are lost in their own fantasies that this could happen to them, and somehow it's an example of how all men act or of how men disrespect women in general, two points. No it won't so stop believing it gives any indication of what might happen to women in general since this act is based first and foremost on celebrity culture and the complete nutcases who buy into it. Two, how celebrities behave and how they are treated in our society does not reflect upon all women and men in this society unless you believe celebrity culture somehow mirrors our society in general. I know the tabloids and trash periodicals want desperately to make you believe this but please do try to resist. It's demeaning to buy in.
"And, to those who are lost in their own fantasies that this could happen to them, and somehow it's an example of how all men act or of how men disrespect women in general, two points. No it won't so stop believing it gives any indication of what might happen to women in general since this act is based first and foremost on celebrity culture and the complete nutcases who buy into it. "
I am not a celebrity, but this and worse HAS happened to me, more than once. As it happened to a friend while using a bathroom in an upscale restaurant. As it happened to another friend in a dressing room at an upscale store. None of us are celebrities, but we are all victims of aggressively sexual behavior at the hands of men. When it happens in places that one should believe are safe, ones sense of security is altered forever. Something you will never understand. But do not preach to victims of these crimes that you know what we will or will not experience when you so clearly find this to be about celebrity status and not crime.
This woman needs a good licensed psychologist. She is traumatized. That is real, and can be very debilitating. It is a psychological problem, and can be resolved with the proper help. I wish her the best.
The fact that Marriott revealed her room number and allowed this creep to room next to her gave me pause about booking a room at a Marriott in the future. When they decided it was best to take this to trial, rather than offer a reasonable settlement, my doubts grew. When their lawyer accused her of orchestrating a publicity stunt, I was repelled and thought there are lots of other hotels I could give my business to. And when the Marriott rep and his buds were watching the video in a restaurant, I decided once and for all that I will never set foot in a Marriott hotel again.
Whatever Marriott has to pay, it's not enough. They made the worst of a bad situation, and I don't blame Andrews for hitting them back the only place they hurt: the wallet. Good luck to her, and a pox on their house.
Sorry, but some of us still believe this is a publicity stunt gone badly.
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You only get 2.5 years for not only filming, but disseminating it on the Internet? That seems like this jerk was given a lenient sentence.
And, by the way, Make Peace Now, if it was a publicity stunt, wouldn't the perv had squealed before going to prison?
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This is not a shy wallflower. This is a woman who is comfortable on camera with millions watching and who interview athletes. And yet, she was crying often when testifying. Of course, good actors can act sad and cry when it is only an act. I remember that my ex cried at our divorce -- but the fact that there were no tears was a tip off. It was completely fake. Now, Erin shed tears so she would have to be a better actor than my ex.
Of course, the more it impacted her the more she should expect in damages -- and $75 million is a LOT of money.
I know that I personally would hardly be phased if nude pictures of me were circulated on the Internet (both when I was young a good looking and now that I'm old and crummy looking).
When its happened, I've tried convincing some of my friends that that is the only way to really deal with bullies and stalkers, but not everyone is the same. When you get into victim mentality, it is very hard, and for some people impossible, to get out of. My guess is that she could really benefit from counseling. I feel terrible that she's still in this hell. Honey, you don't have to stay where you are now!
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Yes, in the future crimes and civil liability will more and more be assessed based on their impacts and not on the actual act.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11695826/Rotherham-child-sex-abuse-300-new-suspects.html
As usual, you'll never read actual news in the Globe when it comes to the people that perpetrated these crimes.
but that is not germane to this story...
That's the entire point of celebrity, Jroy2--to distract you from what is really important. Some buy in; some don't
Consider this. Both Scarlett Johannson and Jennifer Lawrence went through similar demeaning exploitative exposure scandals over the last two years. Legal action? I'm not sure. But I do know this, they kept making movies, Lawrence making over $50 million last year doing legit work in her field.
How does Andrews come up with $75 million? Is it worth more than an actress like Lawrence made all last year, as Hollywood's top paid actress? $5 million? $10 million? Okay, maybe. $75 million? She should win the lottery? Looks like a setup to me.
And did you know your assigning your own sensibilities and morality to someone you have never met and know nothing more about then what you read in a newspaper is completely ridiculous? Why, because she is attractive? A celebrity? A woman? In fact, those of us who are skeptical are able to overlook the fact she is a woman and point to the fact she is a celebrity wanna-be first and foremost. It's not whether we trust women, it's whether we trust the cult of celebrity. I don't.
I am not a celebrity, but this and worse HAS happened to me, more than once. As it happened to a friend while using a bathroom in an upscale restaurant. As it happened to another friend in a dressing room at an upscale store. None of us are celebrities, but we are all victims of aggressively sexual behavior at the hands of men. When it happens in places that one should believe are safe, ones sense of security is altered forever. Something you will never understand. But do not preach to victims of these crimes that you know what we will or will not experience when you so clearly find this to be about celebrity status and not crime.